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Re: just suscribed 26 Jan 2017 14:28 #304362

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Re: just suscribed 26 Jan 2017 14:35 #304364

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i'm thinking of switching to chassideshe litvak

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Re: just suscribed 26 Jan 2017 14:38 #304366

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tzomah wrote on 26 Jan 2017 14:35:
i'm thinking of switching to chassideshe litvak

Your making progress by the minuet, who knows what you'l be in a few min from now.... 
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Re: just suscribed 26 Jan 2017 14:40 #304367

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There was a certain Litvishe yeshiva that at one point had a very large majority of Chassidishe Bochurim. They used to Kler a Chakira: Is it a Litvishe Yeshiva with Chassidishe Bochurim, or a Chassidishe yeshiva with a Litvak for a Rosh Yeshiva?
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Re: just suscribed 26 Jan 2017 14:46 #304368

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don't worry i am also addicted to cofee 
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Re: just suscribed 26 Jan 2017 15:51 #304376

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As we climb a mountain, we realize the slopes are not always smooth. Sometimes to continue an ascent, one must head down a bit to traverse a ditch. Tzomah: Keep climbing! We are right next to you climbing too and cheering for you.
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Re: just suscribed 26 Jan 2017 16:51 #304381

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That was nicely put, great analogy. 
Tzomah we are all climbing the same mountain together and not leaving anyone behind. If anyone falls/slips we are here to help them get their balance back and help them 

Re: just suscribed 26 Jan 2017 16:59 #304384

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tzomah wrote on 26 Jan 2017 14:35:
i'm thinking of switching to chassideshe litvak

Changing from chasidus needs research - specifically below the belt 

If you were born many minutes after sundown, your chassidic Mohel may have given you a Bris on Day 7 according to any misnagdim. 

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Re: just suBscribed 26 Jan 2017 18:56 #304409

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GrowStrong wrote on 26 Jan 2017 12:49:

tzomah wrote on 26 Jan 2017 12:46:
so your saying porn itself would not be considered acting out 

What constitutes a "Fall" to require restarting the count?
There are "slips" and there are "falls". "Slips" do not require restarting the count. "Falls" do require restarting.
A "Fall" is one of the following things:
  1. Intentional masturbation (with finish)
  2. Intentionally viewing improper sites
  3. Intentionally calling inappropriate telephone numbers
  4. Intentionally seeking out and reading erotica
  5. Worse things, which we need not mention



This is from the guard your eyes handbook but I think everyone has to do what will make them more successful. I've always thought it weird that a person has to count it a fall if they intentionally look at something, but where as if they start masturbating intentionally but just don't finish then it's not a fall. Huh??

Re: just suBscribed 27 Jan 2017 02:56 #304443

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[*]Intentional masturbation (with finish)
[*]Intentionally viewing improper sites
[*]Intentionally calling inappropriate telephone numbers
[*]Intentionally seeking out and reading erotica
[*]Worse things, which we need not mention
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This is from the guard your eyes handbook but I think everyone has to do what will make them more successful. I've always thought it weird that a person has to count it a fall if they intentionally look at something, but where as if they start masturbating intentionally but just don't finish then it's not a fall. Huh??
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Re: just suBscribed 30 Jan 2017 12:03 #304582

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probaly because looking at porn itself you didn't overcome anything
where as if you mastrubated but didn't finish you still had to stop yourself so you overcame it
like the gemara says by yosef hatzaddik

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Re: just suBscribed 30 Jan 2017 12:23 #304584

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Welcome back Tzomah. Bh you are doing good. Keep it up!
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Re: just suBscribed 30 Jan 2017 12:26 #304585

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tzomah wrote on 30 Jan 2017 12:03:
probaly because looking at porn itself you didn't overcome anything
where as if you mastrubated but didn't finish you still had to stop yourself so you overcame it
like the gemara says by yosef hatzaddik


It's a good "pshat" but doesn't really make sense to me. The question is what is considered a fall; not whether you got back up again by still overcoming something.

Re: just suBscribed 30 Jan 2017 12:37 #304589

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my point was that by yosef hatzaddik it wasn't really considered a fall

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Re: just suBscribed 30 Jan 2017 12:46 #304590

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tzomah wrote on 30 Jan 2017 12:37:
my point was that by yosef hatzaddik it wasn't really considered a fall

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