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Dear P&M,

Let’s get straight to the point, you guys punched me hard, I fell and I’m slowly trying to get up, I’m still dizzy and it hurts! It’s gloomy and dark as you blanked me out. I’m confused and bewildered, trying to figure myself out. I feel empty and weak since our last reunion. My emotional muscles are jelly. My spiritual immune system is out of sorts and the pain THE INCREDIBLE PAIN!! THE HELL I’m in….

SO YOU WON?

The simple answer is absolutely NOT! But no, I won’t leave you in the dark as you regularly behave with your friends, I’ll explain it to you. First of all, the fact that I called my Mentor is already a win on my side, secondly, I listened him out, although he put me through hell, he set me straight. The story is like this, I’m just [climbing out] in a ditch somewhere high on the way to the peak of Mt. Everest, I maybe broke some bones, there is shooting pain, but I’m alive and even now I’m climbing slowly. You and I know the proof of that, it’s the first time in my life, that the night after falling, I didn’t masturbate in bed! Don’t say it’s nothing, because if so, why did you keep on coming and waking me up in the middle of the night, for just that.

You also keep on sending in complaints about my wife. First of all, if it were not for you, I would be much happier with her, as we have seen. But mainly, with the help of my Mentor I realized, it’s not that I’m open-minded and she’s close-minded, it’s that we’re both un-minded, there is no way for her to understand it at all, and I was so open-minded that my brains fell out.

You killed my streak, but taught me something much more powerful, it’s not the streak, it’s the strength of the urge. Every time I walk in the street (the impossible street) and look away, I’m getting stronger. This morning I remembered my dream of reaching Rosh Hashana, 100 days clean, and now it won’t even be 90, my heart sank literally, until it occurred to me that the truth is the opposite, bezh I’ll get over bein hazmanim – clean, and then I’ll be much stronger, because I made it over bein hazmanim without a clean streak, just genuine purity – what a good way to start the new year!

Don’t get me wrong I’m still down, weak and my energy is low, I also don’t know how to count urges instead of streaks, but with the help of your sworn enemy, my dear friend -the Mentor- I will get up stronger then ever. As you see, right now I’m making sure you don’t push me off the cliff, so far you haven’t gotten me to look around in the street – and you tried hard.

Your former prisoner [who thought we were friends]

"תנה בני לבך לי ועיניך דרכי תצורנה" (משלי כ''ג כ''ו)
אמר ר' יצחק, אמר הקב''ה אי יהבית לי לבך ועיניך אנא ידעית דאנת הוא לי (ירושלמי)


One night in the House of Commons, Churchill, after downing a few drinks, stumbled into Bessie Braddock, a Labourite member from Liverpool.
An angry Bessie straightened her clothes and addressed the British statesman.
“Winston,” she roared. “You are drunk, and what’s more, you are disgustingly drunk.”
Churchill, surveying Bessie, replied,
“And might I say, Mrs. Braddock, you are ugly, and what’s more, disgustingly ugly.-But tomorrow,” Churchill added, “I shall be sober.”
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Re: Starting fresh 24 Jul 2025 06:06 #439352

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welcome on board

I guess now we're in it for the home run!
if your on it for a few years, you're probably ready for a mentor and that will likely be a game changer for you, as it was for me and many of our friends around here.
Hatzlacha rabah on your new journey! 

"תנה בני לבך לי ועיניך דרכי תצורנה" (משלי כ''ג כ''ו)
אמר ר' יצחק, אמר הקב''ה אי יהבית לי לבך ועיניך אנא ידעית דאנת הוא לי (ירושלמי)


One night in the House of Commons, Churchill, after downing a few drinks, stumbled into Bessie Braddock, a Labourite member from Liverpool.
An angry Bessie straightened her clothes and addressed the British statesman.
“Winston,” she roared. “You are drunk, and what’s more, you are disgustingly drunk.”
Churchill, surveying Bessie, replied,
“And might I say, Mrs. Braddock, you are ugly, and what’s more, disgustingly ugly.-But tomorrow,” Churchill added, “I shall be sober.”

Re: I miss me... 24 Jul 2025 05:15 #439350

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Hey chevra,

For today’s post, I just want to take a moment to respond to some of the powerful comments and insights that have resonated with me since my last post which took a lot out of me to write. The truth is, your words haven’t just encouraged me — they’ve helped me reframe things and see my journey with clearer eyes.

After that, I’ll share a little bit about how my day went.

@jwbf
Your message hit me hard — in the best way. You're 100% right. I’ve been putting a lot of emotional weight on those spiritual highs, trying to bottle them and use them as weapons. But you nailed it — the Yetzer doesn’t usually attack when I’m soaring. He waits for the moments when the inspiration has faded, when things feel bland or flat or just routine. And in those moments, emotional highs don’t always hold up.

What you said about learning urge management tools while I’m strong — that’s the piece I’ve been missing. I’m grateful you put it so clearly. It reframed a lot for me.

@Vehkam
That line you wrote — “pursue a clean life with just as much passion as you would pursue a beautiful woman” — that one stuck. That’s exactly the kind of fire I want to channel.

And I appreciate your practical advice too — locking in daily positive reminders. If you have any specific ideas or examples of what’s worked for you, I’d really love to hear them. Always open to concrete strategies.

@mggsbms
Your words were deeply moving — the part about Hashem saving me because He has great plans for me… I needed that reminder.

Sometimes it's easy to forget that all these painful reroutes aren’t just stumbles — they’re part of a very personal path that’s still unfolding. I appreciate the chizuk more than you know.

@Hashemisonmyside
The way you framed it — that maybe in Shamayim they’re making a big deal about what happened — honestly gave me chills. Because you’re right. We tend to look at these days as failures or damage control… but they might actually be massive victories in the heavens. Thank you for that boost.

@Heeling
You’ve been a rock for me, consistently. I won’t spell it all out here, but just know that your words — and your presence — carry weight.

The strength, clarity, and determination you wished for me? I felt that today. And that’s in large part thanks to you.




Now for a quick share about how today went:

Today was a quiet kind of win.

I started the day working from home — not because I wanted to, but because I had to make up for what I didn’t finish yesterday. With everything that went down, my day got completely derailed, and I knew I had to show up and take some control back.

Baruch Hashem, I was busy. I stayed focused. The distractions I was nervous about didn’t even knock. Hashem gave me what I needed — clarity, energy, and protection.

Later, I headed into the office, and on the drive, I had a really nice one-on-one call with a GYE brother I’ve spoken to before, but never like that. Turns out we have a lot in common, and I’m honestly looking forward to building more with him. Just a solid, real conversation.

Work was great — productive, fun, successful. It felt good to function like a normal person. No chaos. Just progress.

After work, I went back to that same park. Picked up some sushi, grabbed a juice I like, and just sat on the rocks — eating slowly, watching the sunset, feeling the breeze off the water, taking it all in. And when I ate, I made a conscious effort to focus on the simple gifts Hashem gives us every day — even something as basic as food. I realized how often I take these things for granted. Tonight, I didn’t.

I journaled a bit, but mostly I just let myself be. No deep emotions, no tears, no fireworks — just calm. Grounded. Grateful. It wasn’t intense like last time. And that’s what made it so special. Just quiet presence with Hashem.

Then, on my way home, I stopped in for Maariv — and sitting there in the beis medrash was none other than my Rebbe.

Let me be clear — this wasn’t someone I just know. This is my Rav. The Rav who literally changed my life in EY. The Rav I had the zchus of an hour and a half chavrusa every single day. He recently moved back from Eretz Yisrael, now lives only an hour away, but he has a new number I haven’t been able to get. I’ve been davening all week that somehow Hashem would reconnect us.

And there he was. Just there. Sitting and learning.

No texts. No coordination. Just straight-up hashgacha pratis.

We spoke for a few minutes, and it was enough to know that more conversations are coming soon.

Lastly, a big thank you to another GYE brother who checked in all day — texting, calling, just being there. The value of that kind of support can’t be overstated. Seriously. Thank you.

Ending the day with quiet gratitude. No drama. No noise. Just peace.

We’re never doing this alone. Not for a second.

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Re: Chizzuk Needed 24 Jul 2025 04:51 #439349

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chancyhk wrote on 23 Jul 2025 20:27:

simchastorah wrote on 21 Jul 2025 18:56:
Day 14 ב"ה

BH doing well. Reviewing daily the pros and cons of engaging with or abstaining from acting out. Without that I seem to forget that it's just not worth it.

edit - after posting this I reread my last post from before this and I see that I was talking about ratzon over there. Clinically and coldly contemplating again and again the negatives compared with the positives of viewing etc as well as the positives vs the negatives of not doing help me to have that ratzon not to do it. Or the ratzon to be btahara. Depending on what's speaking to me more.

Its a simcha for me to see you here Rabbi Simcha!

Did you ever read my posts in the Logic over Lust thread? I think they could be very helpful for you. 

Of course I read your posts! I'm your #1 fan
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tzitzis dude wrote on 24 Jul 2025 03:05:

simchastorah wrote on 22 Jul 2025 09:22:
I think you get double points for grouching about something which is your fault, and perhaps triple for grouching about the fact that it's your fault

Grrr... What has The Grouchery come to? 
Back in the days of old, yay, even before yours truly usurped, way back when this thread was as fresh as a newcomer optimistic GYE member who thought life was sugar and dandy... people didn’t give a FLYING FLIP if their Grouches got “points”, or Thank You’s, or such similar nonsense. People came on here to Grouch, and to The Happery (still available to start, byw) with you if you gave a flying bit of positivity- as the OG (Original Groucher) clearly laid out in his first post to fire this place up. 

And the worstest part of it? He (the OG) has apparently gone down without any swinging- even hitting that meaningless blue button under the posts. Oy. על אלה אני גרווצ׳.

Now THAT was a grouch! 10 points!
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To be continued in another few months...
 The biggest reward for quitting lust...
is getting to live a lust-free life.

Thanks to gye, I turned my life around.
:pinch: Warning: Spoiler!


Trying to get something out of p or m is like trying to find something in this spoiler
:pinch: Warning: Spoiler!
or this one
:pinch: Warning: Spoiler!
Last Edit: 24 Jul 2025 04:25 by tzaddikvikam13.

Re: Religious pain 24 Jul 2025 04:01 #439346

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Great stuff...
Nothing good grows in the dark. 

Re: Starting fresh 24 Jul 2025 03:12 #439344

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Hey brother!! How bout posting daily so we could give you chizuk in the form of thank you's!!!
            Wtvr it is just keep trucking 
Lifes short.... cover ground before ground covers you
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simchastorah wrote on 22 Jul 2025 09:22:
I think you get double points for grouching about something which is your fault, and perhaps triple for grouching about the fact that it's your fault

Grrr... What has The Grouchery come to? 
Back in the days of old, yay, even before yours truly usurped, way back when this thread was as fresh as a newcomer optimistic GYE member who thought life was sugar and dandy... people didn’t give a FLYING FLIP if their Grouches got “points”, or Thank You’s, or such similar nonsense. People came on here to Grouch, and to The Happery (still available to start, byw) with you if you gave a flying bit of positivity- as the OG (Original Groucher) clearly laid out in his first post to fire this place up. 

And the worstest part of it? He (the OG) has apparently gone down without any swinging- even hitting that meaningless blue button under the posts. Oy. על אלה אני גרווצ׳.
“Verbing weirds language”
-Calvin. 
“Getting an inch of snow is like winning ten cents in the lottery”
-also Calvin.
“The most important thing is sincerity. Once you can fake that, the rest is easy.”
-Groucho Marks.
”And since when do I take orders from a fish?”
-Mama Himmelstein.
“... Oooohhh! Heshy and Manny are burning down the city??? Could I help them?”
-Faiga Himmelstein 
“Pornography is a bad answer to a good question”
-R’ Daniel Kalish
“True bitachon means accepting all inconveniences; not just the convenient inconveniences.”
-Rabbi Dovid Kaplan.

Tzitzisdude@gmail.com- contact at your own risk.
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Re: I miss me... 24 Jul 2025 01:35 #439341

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Wow! Powerful! Heartwarming!

May Hashem continue to give you the strength, clarity, and determination you need to break free.

You can win the fight, but I'll have to live with the loser.

Any excuse you use for yourself, you must be willing to use for your wife.

Not Always can I understand others, but I can always respect their wishes.

You're human, it's okay.

One half of the world cannot understand the pleasures of the other.
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Re: Starting fresh 23 Jul 2025 21:59 #439339

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the fresh start should be with loads of Hatzlocha.....

do you have a mentor helping you overcome those urges?
Feel free to reach out abe.k1234@gmail.com or text 347-841-6794 (Google Voice)



Great free resources:

My favorite book for breaking free: The Battle of the Generation guardyoureyes.com/ebooks/item/the-battle-of-the-generation">guardyoureyes.com/ebooks/item/the-battle-of-the-generation. Change your attitude and change your life!

Starting fresh 23 Jul 2025 21:51 #439338

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Hey all. I’ve been on this program on and off for a few years already. BH I’ve been able to reach 90 days multiple times and over 50 many more. But I’ve never gotten much further. I tried and tried again but keep getting sucked back into the old bad habits. So, today is day 1. A new, fresh start.
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Re: what happened to me 23 Jul 2025 21:12 #439337

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As history repeats itself I pass a nisayon with flying colors and then BAM I fell later ...
also didn't help that I didn't really get to learn yesterday which for me is a huge maztiv of sakanah.
          Well well as we truck onwards 
Lifes short.... cover ground before ground covers you
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Re: Chizzuk Needed 23 Jul 2025 20:27 #439336

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simchastorah wrote on 21 Jul 2025 18:56:
Day 14 ב"ה

BH doing well. Reviewing daily the pros and cons of engaging with or abstaining from acting out. Without that I seem to forget that it's just not worth it.

edit - after posting this I reread my last post from before this and I see that I was talking about ratzon over there. Clinically and coldly contemplating again and again the negatives compared with the positives of viewing etc as well as the positives vs the negatives of not doing help me to have that ratzon not to do it. Or the ratzon to be btahara. Depending on what's speaking to me more.

Its a simcha for me to see you here Rabbi Simcha!

Did you ever read my posts in the Logic over Lust thread? I think they could be very helpful for you. 
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Re: Hi. My first post. 23 Jul 2025 20:23 #439335

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yosefthetzadik wrote on 22 Jul 2025 18:07:
It has been a lot easier the past few hours. Thanks for your support. 

I've come to realize that I dont have any friends really. In yeshiva,  I don't connect to anyone really. My best friends are ranked by if I tell them good morning when I come in. I'm not sure what it's all about. But I think it's a mix of a couple of things. 1 I never have what to say or what to talk about, my life is pretty dull and uneventful. 2 I don't have patience to talk about nonsense that won't bring me any knowledge or information. 3 I'm scared of big judged, of sounding stupid, of coming off as desperate for connection. 4 I feel sometimes that people are not really introducing in me, they speak to me just to not make me feel like a nebech. 5 I lost my trust in the world, I hide my background from all my friends as much as possible, even my closest friends don't know nothing about me. 6 I'm always restless, I don't have the patience to build a meaningful relationship with a bucher, and definitely not taking in mind that we might part ways tomorrow. 

My day in social life in yeshiva basically boils down to a couple of 20 second conversations throughout the day. Usually a question about something/information that I need.

Tottaly can relate. 
Thats the reason im a grown man and have almost no friends. i was convinced i would be laughed at, that nobody can like me, that i have nothing to offer. etc. 
It took me a VERY long time to realize that i was VERY wrong. People like me and they always did, and i am sure they like you. 
You seem to be a very bright, insightful, emotionally developed young guy, you are driven to become better, you have a ton to offer. 
my advise to you would be DONT underestimate yourself! DONT sell yourself short! DONT let your childhood traumas take away who you are! DONT let your Years in yeshiva go to waste! 
Make friends, its worth it. I see how important it is now. Its a game changer, like the famous saying "The opposite of addiction is sobriety, its connection" Truer words have rarely been spoken.............

Stay Strong, Stay Holy, Stay Sane
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