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Re: I will make it b"h 23 Oct 2017 15:06 #321457

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Re: I will make it b"h 23 Oct 2017 15:20 #321458

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Im addicted to gye...

What can I do? I'm a post addict a help!!

I can do with a hitch...
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Re: I will make it b"h 23 Oct 2017 15:23 #321459

cordnoy wrote on 23 Oct 2017 12:57:

Path of life wrote on 23 Oct 2017 05:59:
I feel like giving up the fight with the YH , its so tough so hard.
its goes back a looong time (over 10 years)
How many tears I had already shed not to fall again, only to fall again and shed another couple of buckets.
The guilt feelings, the double life, the constant fight.... just cant anymore!
Please help!! feel like giving in and just stop the looong fight

Mine was/is over 35 years.

Thanks,

but the fact that it is possible to struggle so many years make me feel even more at a loss.. will that be my fate on this world to keep fighting struggling?
I thought all along the older you get the lees desire you have... guess I am totally wrong 

Re: I will make it b"h 23 Oct 2017 15:35 #321460

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Path of life wrote on 23 Oct 2017 15:23:

cordnoy wrote on 23 Oct 2017 12:57:

Path of life wrote on 23 Oct 2017 05:59:
I feel like giving up the fight with the YH , its so tough so hard.
its goes back a looong time (over 10 years)
How many tears I had already shed not to fall again, only to fall again and shed another couple of buckets.
The guilt feelings, the double life, the constant fight.... just cant anymore!
Please help!! feel like giving in and just stop the looong fight

Mine was/is over 35 years.

Thanks,

but the fact that it is possible to struggle so many years make me feel even more at a loss.. will that be my fate on this world to keep fighting struggling?
I thought all along the older you get the lees desire you have... guess I am totally wrong 

It's your choice to determine your attitude. It can be negative, but you can choose to be positive. There are those that come onto gye and click right away towards recovery. Some take time. Some fall off. 

II was addressin' your initial comment, "oy, I fought for so long, I give up." There are those here who can prove that wrong.

And there are many here and not here who can prove your last post wrong. No, it does not need to be your fate, but it's up to you.

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Re: I will make it b"h 23 Oct 2017 16:38 #321461

GrowStrong wrote on 23 Oct 2017 06:28:
my life changed when i learned i was sick getting better and not evil trying to get good.
Do you think you moved past the point of bechira into something akin to an addiction?

What is the fine line between Bechirah And an addict?

Re: I will make it b"h 23 Oct 2017 17:40 #321463

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Path of life wrote on 23 Oct 2017 05:59:
I feel like giving up the fight with the YH , its so tough so hard.
its goes back a looong time (over 10 years)
How many tears I had already shed not to fall again, only to fall again and shed another couple of buckets.
The guilt feelings, the double life, the constant fight.... just cant anymore!
Please help!! feel like giving in and just stop the looong fight

hay! dont give up, yes we all know its tough, but the good feeling after fighting off a fake urge of lust is unbelievable, just live a positive life, keep on talking to yourself, yes, i can do it, i will do it, i will ask for help and supprt and ill get it, just think that the day is almost over and why mess with success, keep on positive, and positive only, you have no idea how far it will take you... positive life is best, thats the only way to make it, 
stay strong, stay positive, dont give up. yes you do have to Koach to stay clean..... and remember tefilah has a huge koach.....
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כי עיקר מציאות האדם בעה"ז הוא רק לקיים מצות ולעמד בניסיון,  והנאות העולם אין ראוי שיהו לו אלא לעזר ולסיוע בלבד לשיהיה לו נחת רוח ויישוב הדעת למען יוכל לפנות לבו אל העבודה הזאת מסילת ישרים

Re: I will make it b"h 23 Oct 2017 17:41 #321464

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Markz wrote on 23 Oct 2017 13:06:

MayanHamisgaber wrote on 23 Oct 2017 12:10:
Mikestruggling

Thanks for the well wishes 
As to your wonderment I am not an addict and I feel live 12 step meetings will do more harm than good ....


Live meetings may not be good...

But don't get into the trap of some that are addicted to saying "I'm a non addict", give yourself a few years to decide and maybe get a 2nd opinion because אין אדם רואה אדיקשנס עצמו

MayanHamisgaber wrote on 18 Dec 2016 12:08:
I would sometimes get caught over the years but nothing helped me for long including talking to rebbim that i was and still am very close to. Now my wife is encouraging me to join gye so here we go hope i can finally become the yid i know i really am


You have already opened up to rebeim, so why not open up and keep a running kesher with another recovering gye?

btw If I'd be getting caught I'd definitely consider myself a powerless addict and would take for myself the necessary Truck route to sanity

Maybe you prefer living it out in the land of insanity? Hey - I'm just kidding
Have a great day ;-)

Okay Markz I'll bite/catch the rope 
Agreed that I might need to b in touch with some of the oilum here and I have a few #'s to call

Please explain why getting caught would make you think you are a powerless addict
btw it has not happened in a while now b"h and I definitely feel that things are getting better

Thank you all for posting here and trying to help me even though I can be thick headed somewhat... 

Path of life 
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Re: I will make it b"h 23 Oct 2017 18:13 #321466

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Re: I will make it b"h 23 Oct 2017 23:03 #321487

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MayanHamisgaber wrote on 23 Oct 2017 17:41:

Markz wrote on 23 Oct 2017 13:06:

MayanHamisgaber wrote on 23 Oct 2017 12:10:
Mikestruggling

Thanks for the well wishes 
As to your wonderment I am not an addict and I feel live 12 step meetings will do more harm than good ....


Live meetings may not be good...

But don't get into the trap of some that are addicted to saying "I'm a non addict", give yourself a few years to decide and maybe get a 2nd opinion because אין אדם רואה אדיקשנס עצמו

MayanHamisgaber wrote on 18 Dec 2016 12:08:
I would sometimes get caught over the years but nothing helped me for long including talking to rebbim that i was and still am very close to. Now my wife is encouraging me to join gye so here we go hope i can finally become the yid i know i really am


You have already opened up to rebeim, so why not open up and keep a running kesher with another recovering gye?

btw If I'd be getting caught I'd definitely consider myself a powerless addict and would take for myself the necessary Truck route to sanity

Maybe you prefer living it out in the land of insanity? Hey - I'm just kidding
Have a great day ;-)

Okay Markz I'll bite/catch the rope 
Agreed that I might need to b in touch with some of the oilum here and I have a few #'s to call

Please explain why getting caught would make you think you are a powerless addict
btw it has not happened in a while now b"h and I definitely feel that things are getting better

Thank you all for posting here and trying to help me even though I can be thick headed somewhat... 

Path of life 
Thanks for bumping my thread and breathing some life here KOMTNMW

As dov says people here mix religion into the addiction equation, and it's like mixing wrong ingredients in a batter
So, many will say it has to do with the severity of the sin, but if that's the case why is there Alcoholics Anonymous

1 example of Addiction is being outa control, e.g. getting caught

> Im not sure having backup phone numbers to call is any sort of rope or program at all...
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Re: I will make it b"h 24 Oct 2017 04:25 #321498

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If that were to be the definition of addict then I am not one as I am not getting caught nor o I feel out of control. Also I feel that now my main issues are masturbation and fantasizing looking at porn is in a steady decline on the lust scale b"h

The rope I meant was this discussion and yes I too think I need more than backup phone numbers but I am not desperate enough to make myself even more crazy than I am already to fit more things into my schedule. any ideas ... 
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Re: I will make it b"h 24 Oct 2017 05:18 #321500

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MayanHamisgaber wrote on 24 Oct 2017 04:25:
If that were to be the definition of addict then I am not one as I am not getting caught nor o I feel out of control. Also I feel that now my main issues are masturbation and fantasizing looking at porn is in a steady decline on the lust scale b"h

The rope I meant was this discussion and yes I too think I need more than backup phone numbers but I am not desperate enough to make myself even more crazy than I am already to fit more things into my schedule. any ideas ... 

it's not a definition of addiction - I meant to say it's a sign of addiction

Now you're asking for ideas..

You have many private gye phone numbers?
Start using 1 on a regular basis (and shelve all the other numbers for now) - try 1 call every 2 or 3 days

Thats what id do...
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Re: I will make it b"h 24 Oct 2017 11:53 #321513

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The best part of GYE is that they have tools for everyone if you are't having hatzlacha with what you use now then check the list and see where you stand.
To me masturbating is suffering and as my sponsor said (ya you) "there's no reason to suffer" maybe find a better route
as i slowly recover i noticed a new sensation genuine happiness which is healthy in moderation
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Re: I will make it b"h 24 Oct 2017 18:55 #321524

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Can anyone help me out here 
As per the above conversations I think the tool that will help me best is to be in touch with someone 2-3 times a week and as needed. However opening up to a complete stranger aint the easiest thing for me though I do think those that I may chose I can trust.....
How can I get over this bump other than just jumping in and doing it?
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Re: I will make it b"h 24 Oct 2017 20:42 #321539

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MayanHamisgaber wrote on 24 Oct 2017 18:55:
Can anyone help me out here 
As per the above conversations I think the tool that will help me best is to be in touch with someone 2-3 times a week and as needed. However opening up to a complete stranger aint the easiest thing for me though I do think those that I may chose I can trust.....
How can I get over this bump other than just jumping in and doing it?

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Re: I will make it b"h 24 Oct 2017 22:02 #321543

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ok
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