cordnoy wrote on 11 May 2016 14:58:

who are you, and what have you done to cords?

skeptical wrote on 11 May 2016 18:39:

I see your point. But lets take that a step further and be careful not to mock the mockers. I have found that with these things some people feel alot of pain. People who feel that they were burned so many times. And what seems to us like mocking might just be them expressing their pain. Lets not forget. There is alot of fun on this site but there is also alot of tzaar. That being said, I do appreciate your point, and I for one am going to take it to heart and think for a moment before I text something that can be understood as belittling.

  

Perhaps some here perceive the original post as mocking their own efforts.

sorry you missed the 2nd most fundamental post on gye

stillgoing wrote on 11 May 2016 19:31:

Come on mark, please........................ :grin:

Maybe I shouldn't have mocked him, in hindsight I see that. But my biggest problem is that anon never responded to inquiries if he is getting helped from what he's posting about. I have no idea if he's sleeping with prostitutes or if he never had a lustful thought in his life. If he admits that he has struggled, and this approach helped, then kol hakavod. But until then, I can't take a word that he says as being helpful. I said before, I can come up with 1000 ways not to act out that don't help. It's not much of a chiddush. In general, I have found the best advice isn't even advice. It's a relaying of experience. I personally try to follow that path. You really won't see me offering tips unless they personally helped me. I don't care about the content of anon's posts, it's the tone behind it. The torah way could work for many, but until he confirms tha it has helped him, I will continue to discount it. Sorry if that offends anyone, but that's the reality. Iy"h I won't mock him anymore, but his posts mean nothing to me if it didn't actually work. And that's why it's sad and, (in my brain), funny.
 

Shlomo24 wrote on 12 May 2016 14:04:

Just one question, discount publicly (on the fourm), or privatly (in your mind).

Publicly.

Shlomo24 wrote on 12 May 2016 14:04:

With all due respect (or maybe i am lacking some, sorry) You wrote that you have no idea where he is holding, so why are you assuming that they do not work. you do not need to try them. You do not need to do anything. But why not live and let live. These are his ideas, maybe they will not work for you, but they may well work for others.

I have yet to find somebody come on to guard your eyes to give chizzuk to other people. It's usually, rather almost always, because they themselves are struggling. And until he proves that he's different than everybody else, then I'm going to continue what I'm doing. I guess you will have to live with that also. We can agree to disagree.

Somehow i get the feeling that you totally missed my point.

B'hatzlacha

That's ok.

Funny. When I was reading through the thread it felt like mirror wasnt getting shlomo's point. You know what would be cool? [And skep would approve :wink:!] If mirror would write a post being explaining shlomo's perspective. And then, if that is accurate, Shlomo can reply with Mirror's perspective. I wonder if something like that  can work on our forum....????

realsimcha wrote on 12 May 2016 18:51:

Ok, i will try. (I guess i get to try first because it seems like i'm newer here.)