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Re: MY PATH TO SANITY 16 Apr 2018 12:11 #329832

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lionking wrote on 16 Apr 2018 03:59:
I have been doing well for a while. I totally wasn't white knuckling. Just plain living life for over 30 days clean. Pre-pesach, and pesach flew through smoothly, then bam, I fell hard.

I acted out, in the past week, not once or twice, but eight times. Dozens of hours wasted.

The biggest problem is I don't even feel the want to stop.
I'm not feeling the loss so eloquently described by Dov in one of the recent emails.
B"H my life is not in shambles.
I am not B"H progressing to worse or more riskier behaviours.
Sadly the fact that it is assur, and I am going against Hashem's will, has not made much of a difference in the past. Perhaps I just have a major deficiency in Yiras Shmayim, or perhaps it is Naase Loi K'Heter already...
Rationally, I can't come up with a strong enough reason to stop.

I have been doing a lot of thinking, I read here on the forums, stories of people's hardships. Some were abused, others lived through pain and suffering. My heart goes out for them. I started thinking, I can understand them acting out. They have a pressing issue to want to escape from. What can I say about myself, what is my excuse?

B"H I am blessed with a good life. No one in my immediate family is chronically ill, no one is OTD, I am happily married. I manage to squeeze through the month more or less. (Usually much less... But B"H, I can pay my rent and put food on the table). Why do I act out? Why do I focus and the little bits of negativity in my life, rather then count the immense blessings I am blessed with?

I have come to the conclusion that just as my acting out is irrational, so to my recovery should be irrational. I cannot reason why not to act out. I just need to say NO, no reasoning at all.

My main source of connection (false connection...) is my phone and it was out of service since Pesach, I had a temporary device with no access to my GYE account, email accounts, contacts. They were all just saved on the other phone. It did have access to porn and I used it freely to act out.
B"H, I don't have it any more and have my regular phone back. Will try to reestablish connections, and set up boundaries.

Day 1 of "just say no", Will keep this thread updated IY"H.

it sounds like you have a plain case of yetzer hara- itis(pronounced -yetzer hara "eye"tis),open your mouth and say AAHHHHH!!!!Ribono shel olam!!! ,BH just getting over my bout with it , i hope i dont relapse,its going around. its great to have you back,gye felt different w/o you ,hatzlacha and refuah shliema bisoch she`ar cholei yisroel!

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Last Edit: 16 Apr 2018 13:00 by ieeyc.

Re: MY PATH TO SANITY 16 Apr 2018 13:04 #329833

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Day 2:
I have not been truthful and honest with my previous post.
I wrote, that acting out hasn't affected my life. It is not true. I am feeling it now.
My loss of patience with my wife and kids. My inability to connect to them. My coldness and lack of willpower to do anything. My isolation from everything and everyone.

I need to be realistic and realize that as long as I don't take care of my main trigger, "just saying no" will not work on a longer term. Why am I resentful over stupid little issues? Do I have such a big ego, that these little things bother me immensely?
Do I want to really leave go of my resentments? Perhaps, I really want to hold on to them, so that I can use them as excuses.

I don't have the answers to these questions. I just consciously know I need to stop, even though subconsciously I do not want to.

Hatzlacha Rabba, everyone
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Re: MY PATH TO SANITY 16 Apr 2018 13:27 #329834

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I can relate a to you in so many ways.Im older and like have been here on GYE before,2009.  I so wish I stayed. The lose materially and spiritually so devastating !!!!! BH I'm here because  HASHEM loves and cares about me(us) more than a human can understand. 

Re: MY PATH TO SANITY 17 Apr 2018 04:27 #329861

lionking wrote on 16 Apr 2018 13:04:
Day 2:
I have not been truthful and honest with my previous post.
I wrote, that acting out hasn't affected my life. It is not true. I am feeling it now.
My loss of patience with my wife and kids. My inability to connect to them. My coldness and lack of willpower to do anything. My isolation from everything and everyone.

I need to be realistic and realize that as long as I don't take care of my main trigger, "just saying no" will not work on a longer term. Why am I resentful over stupid little issues? Do I have such a big ego, that these little things bother me immensely?
Do I want to really leave go of my resentments? Perhaps, I really want to hold on to them, so that I can use them as excuses.

I don't have the answers to these questions. I just consciously know I need to stop, even though subconsciously I do not want to.

Hatzlacha Rabba, everyone






Nice honesty. For me, sometimes it takes a bit of time until I start feeling the pain caused by my unwise actions. There can be a brief period where I wonder if I managed to "get away with it".

By get away with it I mean; doing pleasurable destructive things and feeling alright afterwards. I never do though. Always feel like crap eventually. This has never not happened.

Ah well, who the hell cares about this anyways? The real question is: 

How do you plan on dealing with your resentments?  
If you are really bored, you can check out my original thread here: guardyoureyes.com/forum/4-On-the-Way-to-90-Days/305558-Journey-of-one-day-at-a-time 

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Re: MY PATH TO SANITY 18 Apr 2018 00:45 #329909

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Ihavestrength wrote on 17 Apr 2018 04:27:

lionking wrote on 16 Apr 2018 13:04:
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I don't have the answers to these questions. I just consciously know I need to stop, even though subconsciously I do not want to.

Hatzlacha Rabba, everyone


...
How do you plan on dealing with your resentments?  


I really don't know. First step is identifying what they are and bringing them out in the open. Perhaps I will write them out.
I don't have time today for a longer post. I still have a major void in my life. For now I just need to thread water and keep on saying no until I am in a healthier state of mind.

Onward to Day 4.
My email address is: growinghigher613@gmail.com

Re: MY PATH TO SANITY 18 Apr 2018 01:45 #329913

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lionking wrote on 18 Apr 2018 00:45:

Ihavestrength wrote on 17 Apr 2018 04:27:

lionking wrote on 16 Apr 2018 13:04:
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I don't have the answers to these questions. I just consciously know I need to stop, even though subconsciously I do not want to.

Hatzlacha Rabba, everyone



...
How do you plan on dealing with your resentments?  



I really don't know. First step is identifying what they are and bringing them out in the open. Perhaps I will write them out.
I don't have time today for a longer post. I still have a major void in my life. For now I just need to thread water and keep on saying no until I am in a healthier state of mind.

Onward to Day 4.

I know how I dealt/deal with mine.
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Re: MY PATH TO SANITY 18 Apr 2018 18:04 #329937

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cordnoy wrote on 18 Apr 2018 01:45:

I know how I dealt/deal with mine.

Care to elaborate?
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Re: MY PATH TO SANITY 18 Apr 2018 18:06 #329939

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Check his thread - It's quite elaborate ;-)

Try from page 1
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Re: MY PATH TO SANITY 18 Apr 2018 18:08 #329940

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I had a wet dream last night. Resetted my count to Day 1. 

I'm slowly crawling out of the hole I dug for myself. There is something beneficial just by identifying my feelings and going through them.
My email address is: growinghigher613@gmail.com

Re: MY PATH TO SANITY 18 Apr 2018 18:20 #329941

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Markz wrote on 18 Apr 2018 18:06:
Check his thread - It's quite elaborate ;-)

Try from page 1

You meant Tryin'

I read alot of that thread. Definitely the first few pages. There is some mention of "owning my life" which I don't understand. Also talk about therapy. Is that what you are referencing to?
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Re: MY PATH TO SANITY 18 Apr 2018 18:58 #329944

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lionking wrote on 18 Apr 2018 18:08:
I had a wet dream last night. Resetted my count to Day 1. 

I'm slowly crawling out of the hole I dug for myself. There is something beneficial just by identifying my feelings and going through them.

A wet dream is not a fall and there is no need to reset. You are not responsible for what your body does when you're asleep. 
That being said, good for you for getting yourself back on track and working on identifying and addressing the underlying issues that cause a feeling of needing to act out. Chazak Ve'ematz!
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Re: MY PATH TO SANITY 18 Apr 2018 20:08 #329947

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lionking wrote on 18 Apr 2018 18:08:
I had a wet dream last night. Resetted my count to Day 1. 

I'm slowly crawling out of the hole I dug for myself. There is something beneficial just by identifying my feelings and going through them.

Why are you resetting? 

Re: MY PATH TO SANITY 18 Apr 2018 20:59 #329950

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Workingguy wrote on 18 Apr 2018 20:08:

lionking wrote on 18 Apr 2018 18:08:
I had a wet dream last night. Resetted my count to Day 1. 

I'm slowly crawling out of the hole I dug for myself. There is something beneficial just by identifying my feelings and going through them.

Why are you resetting? 

I don't know. I probably would've thought twice about it if I had a longer streak. 3 days isn't long enough, and it helps my physiologically to reset. That hischadshus feeling...
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Re: MY PATH TO SANITY 19 Apr 2018 04:00 #329978

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lionking wrote on 18 Apr 2018 18:04:

cordnoy wrote on 18 Apr 2018 01:45:

I know how I dealt/deal with mine.

Care to elaborate?

By followin' the fourth step suggestions, especially the writin' of the resentment sheets....those were always my favorite.
My email: thenewme613@hotmail.com
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Re: MY PATH TO SANITY 19 Apr 2018 04:07 #329980

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lionking wrote on 18 Apr 2018 18:08:
I had a wet dream last night. Resetted my count to Day 1. 

I'm slowly crawling out of the hole I dug for myself. There is something beneficial just by identifying my feelings and going through them.

o comon ,for just a wet dream?lets play by the rules 

לב  טהור   ברא   לי   אלקים , ורוח  נכון    חדש  בקרבי

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