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The Mark of Torah - Lust Chizuk 01 Apr 2016 02:57 #283153

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Here's my first music post and not the last iyH

BEHS just completed the introduction to Mesillas Yesharim

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יסוד החסידות ושורש העבודה התמימה הוא - שיתברר ויתאמת אצל האדם מה חובתו בעולמו וּלְמַה צריך שישים מבטו ומגמתו בכל אשר הוא עמל כל ימי חייו. 

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Reb Yid wrote on 04 Apr 2011 02:23:
Parshas Shemini

In this week's Parsha we learn about the animals, fish, insects, and birds that we may not eat. The Torah describes them as "Toeiva" - an abomination. We are taught that by eating these things we are destroying our Neshamos, and the damage is very great. Why is it that these things are so dangerous, and if it is, why do they only affect us, and not people from other nationalities?

The answer is simple. Just as a child would not be able to eat certain foods that are difficult for their sensitive stomachs to digest, while that same food is ok and maybe even beneficial for an adult who's stomach can handle more, so too by a Yid versus a Goy. The Kedusha of a Yid is so great that these types of abominable foods can throw the system out of whack. But by a Goy, being that his level is significantly lower, he will not be affected at all by their consumption.

Here on GYE, there are many things that we may not be able to do, while other non-addicts, may not have a hard time with them. As a married man, there are some things that are halachically permissible for me with regard to my wife, which I refrain from doing because of the sensitivity of my situation. As Bochurim, there may be a job or a store that is Be'Etzem not bad, and maybe even a good place to be, but because of your sensitivities, it's advisable to stay away.

In short, everything is relative. Just as one food may affect one person more than another, so too certain actions may be more dangerous for one over another. As responsible people, it would be wise for us to pay attention to our specific tendencies, and cater a program of avoidance specially for us.

Hatzlocha!!


Eslaasos sent me a really nice elaboration on this today as follows, and I quote;

It matches what my therapist has said - you have to know where you need to draw your red lines that are specific to you.I find it sometimes stressful because I am often second-guessing myself, and don't like making decisions (I used to think I was indecisive but I'm no longer sure), and this is a decision that no-one can make for you, but that doesn't make it less true. I recently picked up the book "What the angel taught you" from R' Noach Weinberg and l'havdil Yaakov Salomon, and in the intro he says that one of the advantages of having learnt the whole Torah in utero is that when you come across the truth you will recognize it.The Nesivas Sholom says something similar; that the neshomo really knows what's right. I may be misquoting it as my memory is fuzzy. It's a slippery slope to rely on "gut" or "intuition". The YH and our own bad choices create interference that prevents us from seeing the truth, but intense focus on learning acts as a cleansing agent (see Nefesh Hachaim Shaar 1). Being indecisive is the surest way to get nothing done, so tachlis - I think (only because the YH still ahs enohg of a hold on me that I can't be more definite) that my main battleground right now is:  sur mera - avoiding all secular novels and movies/TV shows  asei tov - keeping a positive attitude, and sticking to sedarim.
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The Mark of Torah - Lust Chizuk 03 Apr 2016 04:42 #283310

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Gevura Shebyesod wrote on 03 Apr 2016 04:35:
I'd like to nominate "truckingness" as Word Of The Year. 


Very deep

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The Mark of Torah - Lust Chizuk 11 Apr 2016 05:50 #284272

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markz wrote on 10 Jan 2016 02:00:
selfishness feeds lust which feeds selfishness... ... - an endless circle

Which is why the common שורש of גאוה and תאוה is אוה
They are intertwined one another
Rabbi A Schorr שליטא


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במחילת כבוד תורתך הרמה, he didn't mean the grammatical שרש, he meant the "root" of תאוה and גאוה is the same i.e. self-centeredness.

(לעניות דעתי נראה ששורש גאוה הוא ג-א-ה ושורש תאוה הוא א-ו-ה)

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Anonymous - To be or not to be

The power of Anonymity, and Non-Anon

bardichev wrote on 24 Sep 2009 14:09:
Reb Levi Yitzchak and Chametz

One year, shortly before the first Pesach Seder, the holy Rebbe, Reb Levi Yitzchak of Berditchev, took several of his

students into town. He knocked on the door of a local store and asked to buy cigarettes. The storekeeper replied, "I

don't have any. Don't you know that they are illegal?" Reb Levi Yitzchak was persistent and again asked to buy

cigarettes. After several requests, the storekeeper produced the cigarettes and was willing to sell them.

Reb Levi Yitzchak then approached a man walking down the street and asked if he had a cigarette. "Don't you know

that they are illegal? I can get thrown in jail for possession!" Again, after several requests, the gentleman displayed his

stash and offered one to the Berditchever.



Reb Levi Yitzchak then sent his attendant to a Jewish home to ask if they had a small piece of bread. "G-d forbid!" was

the reply, and not knowing why the attendant was asking, continued to explain, "On Pesach we are forbidden to have

any bread or chametz in our home." The attendant went to a second home and a third home, and the reply was the

same.


When the attendant returned empty-handed to his Rebbe, Reb Levi Yitzchak held his hands up high and

exclaimed, "Master of the Universe! The Czar forbids the importation of these cigarettes. He has soldiers and policemen to

help enforce this law. But yet these cigarettes are on the streets and available to all, somehow smuggled across the

border.

"Three thousand years ago, You commanded Your children not to bring bread into their homes on Pesach. You have no

soldiers or policemen
, yet there is no bread to be found in all of Berditchev.

See how powerfully Your children love You!!"


Rabbi Abraham Twersky explains that the human spirit has the control to be in power without relying on animal instincts. An animal can only be restrained by the force of danger. He gives an example; A sexaholic that refrains from illicit relations for fear of disease, is no different than an animal that runs to save its hide

There's no shame factor in an anonymous name at all! No one knows you!!
The only thing that gives an anonymous member staying power is the radiance of the human soul. There are no police or soldiers around. This was Bardichevs Bardichever thought

As a side note; I have left that group, for better waters, and for great friends - hey I hope to meet some too!!!!
In my wildest dreams, I never would have seen myself doing this 6 months ago when I joined Gye

TRUCKING REVERSE... VROOMMMMM!!

The reverse is also true

One that needs to come out of anonymity, for the sake of sobriety, and does so - disregarding the embarrassment, is one that allowed the human spirit to override, and is following in the "Steps" of Barditchev

So I wish all you guys the best trucking experience!!!!!!!!!

Mark
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The Mark of Torah - Lust Chizuk 18 Apr 2016 11:53 #284975

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chacham atik wrote:
ive been wondering since i started gye why everything has to be associated with gd and Judaism.
i know this is a jewish website and we are basically all jewish and its all about the fight with yetzer horah...
why cant we look at the fight a health thing or a regular rehab why does gd have to mixed in?

ps:nothing against gd at all im frum yeshuva bocher learning hard shomer torah and mitzvot 
just wondering why this website is so cheesy? 


That's how we deal with fleishige I's
Something I wrote:
IMHO in low level addiction to Porn and Mast like myself, if we take Gd out of the equation I'd never have looked to change my life, which is why there's more religious guys here than elsewhere

Acc to my little research the non jewish / irreligious world, Masturbation isn't condoned at all

A religious life with Hashem has granted me a better physical life, but I only came here bc of Hashem

 
doingtshuva wrote:
The twelve steps wasn't set up by a Jew, but still many goiem + yiden around the world are benefiting from the 12 steps. In the 12 steps, and for those who are working  the steps, use sentences or phrases of one giving your-self over to god or to an higher power.


My personal recovery is partially a product of Torah based ideas, eg. restrictions, which the Rabbis of our days have recommended

More importantly, Rabbi Abraham Twerski, an addiction specialist, constantly advises keeping spirituality in ones daily life for recovery, as does cordnoy and others, although they use many other important sobriety tools

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The Mark of Torah - Lust Chizuk 20 Apr 2016 19:32 #285484

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Palestinian Thoughts

From 2 of this week's emails

Covering everything with foil?!
Obviously, we understand that instead of covering the entire world before Pesach, we simply guard our mouths carefully from eating Chametz!

The same goes for issues of lust.

We live in a world that is full of promiscuity.  Muslim extremists take the zealous approach of having their women covered from head to toe and never appearing in public. They also insist on "world domination" so they can "fix" the rest of the world as well. But as Jews, we recognize that the best approach of all is simply to GUARD YOUR OWN EYES :-) And when we fix ourselves, we are fixing the world as well.

What indeed is mesiras nefesh?

Many people think it means throwing oneself into a fire ‘al Kiddush G-d’. This is true as well, but there is a common misunderstanding regarding this concept. After all, there are many terrorists who are willing to detonate suicide belts and kill themselves for “Allah”. What differentiates them from a Jew who is ready to die for G-d?

The answer is simple, yet profound. Messiras Nefesh has nothing to do with what you are willing to sacrifice, even if it is your very life. As long as you are sacrificing it ultimately for your own self, it is a selfish act.

When a terrorist blows himself up, he believes that he will go straight to Heaven and be given 72 virgins. He is actually doing the most selfish act possible - that of killing other human beings for what he imagines is his own personal ticket to eternal bliss. This is the very opposite of Mesiras Nefesh!

The words Messiras Nefesh mean ”Giving over of the soul” and this does not require death or pain to be real. It can be achieved even during the highest levels of Simcha (joy). It is simply the desire deep in the Jewish soul to give everything away to G-d, to let completely go of the self, as Dovid Hamelech said “to you G-d, I lift up my soul”



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skeptical wrote on 25 Mar 2013 07:11:
Chametz and Matzah are very similar words. Chametz (spelled Ches, Mem, Tzadik) and Matzah (spelled Mem, Tzadik, Hey) have a difference of one letter - a Ches and a Hey. Dough when it rises too much becomes chametz. If you look at the difference between a Hey and Ches, a Ches is a Hey in which the line "grew too much" and reaches the top. Meaning that when we let our egos, our sense of self, rise - when we let our own selfish desires rule us instead of doing what Hashem wants of us, we have an issue of chametz. Someone recently told me that ego stands for Easing G-d Out.

Tonight as we have searched for the chametz in our homes, let us also search for the chametz inside of us.
Tomorrow as we burn the chametz that we have found, let us also burn the chametz that we have found inside of us until it is an unrecognizable mass of ash.
As we celebrate Pesach this year, let us each be liberated from our own sense of Mitzrayim, the things that are holding us back from fully doing Hashem's will.

As we were brought out of Golus Mitzrayim all those years ago, may we be brought out of this golus, this olam hasheker, so that the essence of our neshamas may shine and we can serve Hashem without any hinderance


Skep, If I may add, the difference between the ה and the ח, is the small opening to "let go and let Gd" in
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The Mark of Torah - Lust Chizuk 21 Apr 2016 15:37 #285592

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There's actually something along those lines in the Gemara, I can't remember the source. That you can fall out the bottom into Gehinnom but you can also climb back in through the side.
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And every day that you want to waste, that you want to waste, you can
And every day that you want to wake up, that you want to wake, you can
And every day that you want to change, that you want to change, yeah
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Menachos 29b, but do you not think that's a little too serious for this thread?
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markz wrote on 21 Apr 2016 15:45:
Menachos 29b, but do you not think that's a little too serious for this thread?

brought in rashi to parashas beraishis 
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Thats the one I meant, thanks.

BTW Mark, what's that M in a circle I see on some of your posts? It looks like a Halal logo. Are You Tachas Hashgachas HaImam HaMufti Abbas?
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וּבְיָדְךָ כֹּחַ וּגְבוּרָה וּבְיָדְךָ לְגַדֵּל וּלְחַזֵּק לַכֹּל

And every day that you want to waste, that you want to waste, you can
And every day that you want to wake up, that you want to wake, you can
And every day that you want to change, that you want to change, yeah
I'll help you see it through...


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Gevura Shebyesod wrote on 21 Apr 2016 16:03:

BTW Mark, what's that M in a circle I see on some of your posts? It looks like a Halal logo. Are You Tachas Hashgachas HaImam HaMufti Abbas?

No, not the Mufti.  Mark'z posts are certified by the PA.

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Gevura Shebyesod wrote on 21 Apr 2016 15:37:
There's actually something along those lines in the Gemara, I can't remember the source. That you can fall out the bottom into Gehinnom but you can also climb back in through the side.

https://guardyoureyes.com/forum/15-The-Torah-amp-Chizuk-Approach/239576-Re-Chazak-Chazak-Venischazek%21%21#239576

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I heard a fascinating idea b'shem the Noam Megadim. If anyone can provide the source so I can see the original, I would really appreciate it.
If a temptation entices you, and you overcome it, it is not vanquished; it will come back and tempt you again. This I had heard many times before. The chiddush I now heard is that after overcoming it 5 times, it will keep coming back but when you overcome it again, it will be converted into a cheshek for kedusha.
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