Iyh pretty soon you will break free of both issues. You must feel liberated that you can control your eyes and mind. It should continue b'ezras Hashem, and then the hands will follow, and then you will help others.........

There was once
a wet drunk who had a dry dream...
a dry drunk who had a wet dream...
a drunk who had a dream...
a dream who had a drunk...
a dream - who drunk?
Me of course!!

That's what I would feel like if I was joining gye now and hearing that masturbation now is Ok and I should separate the 2 and give it a try... for a week or a month or a year,\.
I don't believe I would have had my 650 day streak
In recent days my porn struggle was weaker than masturbation struggle, I don't think I'd be back to 100+ days BH either...

Day #8

B"h things are going well.  This split up really helps, and really minimzes the lust a lot.  With Hashem's help it will continue.

See everyone tomorrow!

Day #9

B"h things are going well. The knas really makes it much easier to ensure that things are stopped well before they get out of control. Be"h it will continue to work. 

See everyone tomorrow! 

Markz wrote on 06 Nov 2017 13:40:

Thanks for your opinion (seriously).  I definitely wasn't saying that masturbation was ok, and I don't think anyone else was saying that either.  This type of thing is similar to a kiruv situation.  If you try everything at once you're probability of failure goes way up.  It's better to take it slow and make progress than to go quickly and leave with nothing.  No one (that I can tell) is saying that it would work for you or anyone else,  from my point of view this thread is not advice for other people at all.  I'm just giving over what I'm trying in this struggle in real time. If someone wants to take something that I did or said for themselves, that is their own problem and it has nothing to do with me.  This thread is just a log of my struggle.  

Day #10

B"h today was good again.  No slips of any kind.  Not much else to say.

See everyone else tomorrow!

Thanks for sharing. 

Day #11

I was looking at something today, and I probably looked a little longer than I should have, but Hashem helped me to stop and I shut it off. Everything else is still good. 

See everyone tomorrow! 

Day #12

Last night I looked at some stuff longer than I should have.  It wasn't that terrible, but I had a hard time stopping.  Thankfully I didn't look at any pornography but I did masturbate without any imagery.  Like before, it wasn't this all powerful lust which for some reason makes it much easier not to keep slipping. Once the lust really hits, it's even difficult after masturbation sometimes.  I'm just focusing on stopping pornography now, so I'm still on track by my definition.

Have a good shabbos!

Day #13

B"h shabbos was good.  I'm still on track and am almost at two weeks.  I am starting to get this little urge to look at pornography, but it's not that strong.  I think that I can do this.

See everyone tomorrow!

Its incredible how much you have accomplished. Of course these urges will come, and iyh you will be successful in ignoring them. Knowing that you can share all this here will help also.

Well done Bgit!

I am happy you're moving upward! No matter which road you're taking!  

Day #14

I'm at two weeks pornography free.  Last night I had a slip and ended up masturbating but still no pornography.  Like LoveU,Hashem said in a different post, I need to focus on the beginning parts of the urges instead of trying to fight them after they are here.  I think that's why the first week was also masturbation free.  I was more vigilant then about not getting involved in the very beginning and need to start doing that again.

See everyone tomorrow!

There is a saying that the difference between a regular eater and a glutton ( freeser) is not about what they eat but how much they think about it. Lust ain't good, but if you kill it prematurely you don't get to indulge in it, and that is a lot of progress. The main problem with lust for me is that when I lust, it takes over my entire being and all I do is lust. I can't do anything else. It consumes all of my energy. And that kills me and turn me into a worthless unproductive being. 

So, don't let your yetzer (read: perfectionism) bring you down by the fact that you are masturbating so you're anyways a failure, might as well etc.. Keep strong for you have made great progress!

Hatzlacha!
Yitzchok

Day #15

B"h today was good.  I was pretty busy today and no major challenges.

See everyone tomorrow!