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Re: Bigmoish's path to tahara 19 Oct 2015 08:41 #266300

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Moishe that was beautiful. It really is a choice between me and G-d. Who has the power, who is on control. Am I dumb enough to think it is me, or the perspective to remember it is G-d.

Thank you for that.

Remember at least for today, for right now, you can choose G-d. So tell Him how much you need Him and how much you love Him. Maybe He'll show you some of His love back.
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Re: Bigmoish's path to tahara 19 Oct 2015 12:39 #266314

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We have done lots of talkin' and thinkin' and delvin'.

For me, the question is different: it is a choice between me and me.
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Re: Bigmoish's path to tahara 19 Oct 2015 12:42 #266316

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MBJ wrote:
Moishe that was beautiful. It really is a choice between me and G-d. Who has the power, who is on control. Am I dumb enough to think it is me, or the perspective to remember it is G-d.

Thank you for that.

Remember at least for today, for right now, you can choose G-d. So tell Him how much you need Him and how much you love Him. Maybe He'll show you some of His love back.


Dov told me recently that he would rewrite step one to first say that our life is unmanageable as is (if it truly is); then we can discuss powerlessness and control.
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Re: Bigmoish's path to tahara 19 Oct 2015 14:02 #266325

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Cordnoy,
Not sure I understand your objection to what I or moishe wrote.
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Re: Bigmoish's path to tahara 19 Oct 2015 14:08 #266326

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Every muscle in my body is tense.
I am fighting myself with all my strength.
Why don't I just give myself over to Hashem? It really is the easy way out; no fighting, no tension.
Because then I have to give up my drug.
I don't want to give up the sweet escape from reality.
Real life is painful. Fantasy is geshmak.
I am terrified to let go of my medication.
I continue to hold onto lust with a death grip.
I may even convince myself that I am choosing correctly, as I am not actively pursuing lust.
But I am still a prisoner.
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Re: Bigmoish's path to tahara 19 Oct 2015 15:02 #266330

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MBJ wrote:
Cordnoy,
Not sure I understand your objection to what I or moishe wrote.


No objection.

Mentioned above was that the question was "Me or God?"
Unless one is in a good state of recovery, when one is lustin', the answer to that question might end up bein' "me."
I know by me it was.
However, if the question is asked differently, "Me (present mode), or me (Livin' life)?" the response might be a different one.
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Re: Bigmoish's path to tahara 19 Oct 2015 15:04 #266331

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Bigmoish wrote:
Every muscle in my body is tense.
I am fighting myself with all my strength.
Why don't I just give myself over to Hashem? It really is the easy way out; no fighting, no tension.
Because then I have to give up my drug.
I don't want to give up the sweet escape from reality.
Real life is painful. Fantasy is geshmak.
I am terrified to let go of my medication.
I continue to hold onto lust with a death grip.
I may even convince myself that I am choosing correctly, as I am not actively pursuing lust.
But I am still a prisoner.


"Real life is painful."

If that is the truth, which it very well may be, that is the point to address; not the lust.
When you are lustin' or tense, ask yourself, "What is so painful about life?"
Truth is - ask the question when you are not lustin' or tense as well.
Therein lies the key - me think.

b'hatzlachah
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Re: Bigmoish's path to tahara 19 Oct 2015 15:49 #266337

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cordnoy wrote:
Bigmoish wrote:
Every muscle in my body is tense.
I am fighting myself with all my strength.
Why don't I just give myself over to Hashem? It really is the easy way out; no fighting, no tension.
Because then I have to give up my drug.
I don't want to give up the sweet escape from reality.
Real life is painful. Fantasy is geshmak.
I am terrified to let go of my medication.
I continue to hold onto lust with a death grip.
I may even convince myself that I am choosing correctly, as I am not actively pursuing lust.
But I am still a prisoner.


"Real life is painful."

If that is the truth, which it very well may be, that is the point to address; not the lust.
When you are lustin' or tense, ask yourself, "What is so painful about life?"
Truth is - ask the question when you are not lustin' or tense as well.
Therein lies the key - me think.

b'hatzlachah


Methinks he knows what it is but not what to do about it or how to resolve it, but I'm sure you two have discussed it.
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Re: Bigmoish's path to tahara 10 Jan 2016 05:20 #273808

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ZemirosShabbos wrote:
one thing i would suggest is that you weigh the decision to stop on gye carefully


Ahem......?
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Re: Bigmoish's path to tahara 10 Jan 2016 06:21 #273829

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Was that throat clearin' aimed at me or Zemmy?
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www.guardyoureyes.com/forum/4-On-the-Way-to-90-Days/236329-Bigmoishs-path-to-tahara

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Re: Bigmoish's path to tahara 10 Jan 2016 07:03 #273830

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Bigmoish wrote:
Was that throat clearin' aimed at me or Zemmy?


Zemmy
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Re: Bigmoish's path to tahara 10 Jan 2016 12:49 #273839

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cordnoy wrote:
Bigmoish wrote:
Was that throat clearin' aimed at me or Zemmy?


Zemmy
youll have to clear your throat real load, he can't hear you, cos he's doing Zemiros Shabbos at the top of his voice, and only replies if his life is at risk
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Re: Bigmoish's path to tahara 20 Jan 2016 23:38 #275080

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Hi Bigmoish.
Just joining your thread here.

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Re: Bigmoish's path to tahara 21 Jan 2016 14:26 #275120

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Bigmoish wrote:
eslaasos wrote:
Bigmoish wrote:
It would feel very good right now to take a hit of my sweet sweet drug.
Such an easy escape from reality; such a great high.
I'm too lazy to get around all my filtration devices at the moment, but wonderful fantasies can easily be dreamed up in my mind's eye.
So, what will it be? Will I? Or won't I? Do I really have the ability to choose anymore?
Of course I do. But the choice is not yes or no, life or death, sanity or foolishness.
Given those options, I am guaranteed to choose the choice of folly and fleeting pleasure. Eventually. Perhaps not this time (though probably), but my will power is not unlimited. It is, in fact, very weak.
The choice I have right now is the choice between me and God. Nothing more, nothing less. If I choose me, which I well may, I will then be faced with the futile options presented above.
If I choose to accept God, anything is possible.
But will I?
Will you?

There are a lot of people rooting for you.
But only one matters.
אם אין אני לי, מי לי?

Today, I am rooting for myself.
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www.guardyoureyes.com/forum/19-Introduce-Yourself/236327-Bigmoish-tries-to-be-good
www.guardyoureyes.com/forum/4-On-the-Way-to-90-Days/236329-Bigmoishs-path-to-tahara

"We have met the enemy and he is us" - Pogo
"Expectation is the mother of frustration" - gibbor120
"Today, damn it! Today!" - cordnoy
"Desiring is not a sin at all, but just a sign that you are not dead yet" - Dov
"We are our own worst observer" - eslaasos's therapist
WDHW!!!

Re: Bigmoish's path to tahara 21 Jan 2016 14:32 #275124

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Bigmoish wrote:
Bigmoish wrote:
eslaasos wrote:
Bigmoish wrote:
It would feel very good right now to take a hit of my sweet sweet drug.
Such an easy escape from reality; such a great high.
I'm too lazy to get around all my filtration devices at the moment, but wonderful fantasies can easily be dreamed up in my mind's eye.
So, what will it be? Will I? Or won't I? Do I really have the ability to choose anymore?
Of course I do. But the choice is not yes or no, life or death, sanity or foolishness.
Given those options, I am guaranteed to choose the choice of folly and fleeting pleasure. Eventually. Perhaps not this time (though probably), but my will power is not unlimited. It is, in fact, very weak.
The choice I have right now is the choice between me and God. Nothing more, nothing less. If I choose me, which I well may, I will then be faced with the futile options presented above.
If I choose to accept God, anything is possible.
But will I?
Will you?

There are a lot of people rooting for you.
But only one matters.
אם אין אני לי, מי לי?

Today, I am rooting for myself.

So am I
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