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Re: Make it to Yeshiva 05 Jul 2022 18:15 #382873

YeshivaGuy wrote on 04 Jul 2022 04:21:
Wow so I leave for a bit and now the entire site looks all groovy and retro.

I won’t discuss the past, what I will discuss is the present.

Camp is great. I’m in charge, running the program, the director trusts me to listen to what I say to do with scheduling etc.
The kids aren’t frum so it’s a great opportunity etc etc etc bh.

Problem, I was told that the girls camp was totally separate.
It’s not, at least not for me who needs to daily interact with the girl head counselors with stuff.
And yes, I spend a lot of time daily staring at girls skirts.

Main issue is the secretary, I am very attracted to her. We have similar humor so we’ve been engaged in constant sarcastic banter etc.
Whats difficult is she’s not frum, ik she’d do stuff, her skirt is thigh high and tight etc and it’s all I’m looking at when I gotta go to the office for something.
I looked up her Tik Tok which made me go even more crazy, knowing what she can do.
And a friend of mine told me (in a dif context) that he matched with her on tinder once….

I took the job cuz I was told it was totally separate like with two completely different campuses which isn’t the case on the ground…

What I’m saying is that I’m getting female attention which I crave and it’s consuming me.
I am driven to grow this summer. I want to change and make a change in the lives of these kids, but idk.

Also this secretary isn’t here this week, is back for two weeks, and then gone the last 3 weeks which sucks.
I guess my soul is glad about that but it’s a bummer…

Idk what to tell you guys.
Along with all this is the pressure of dealing with parents upset about counselors screwing up and the director complaining to Me about it.

Im trying to at the same time to not be fat and deal with a camp that’s unorganized and does everything last minute (and when I try doing things earlier I’m ghosted until the last second).

Wow, this sounds like a challenging situation to be in. I shudder at the thought of having those temptations.

All I can do is wish you the clarity and strength needed to grow from it!
Get off TikTok; that s**t is gonna kill you!
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Re: Make it to Yeshiva 05 Jul 2022 18:26 #382875

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Markz wrote on 05 Jul 2022 13:31:

YeshivaGuy wrote on 05 Jul 2022 05:22:
General Grant!
Can we here how you’re doing? 
We weren’t just missing the stories, we’ve missed YOU!!


YG you sound like you’d make a great Camp Director!!!

Maybe you can have General Grant lead one of the teams for Color War. And for the other team, General (Frank.)Lee.
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Re: Make it to Yeshiva 05 Jul 2022 19:30 #382882

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Gevura Shebyesod wrote on 05 Jul 2022 18:26:

Markz wrote on 05 Jul 2022 13:31:

YeshivaGuy wrote on 05 Jul 2022 05:22:
General Grant!
Can we here how you’re doing? 
We weren’t just missing the stories, we’ve missed YOU!!


YG you sound like you’d make a great Camp Director!!!

Maybe you can have General Grant lead one of the teams for Color War. And for the other team, General (Frank.)Lee.

We are not ready for that. 

YG is grappling over a problem with this Kalla secretary, whether to marry her or not, and until the issue with this Calla war is won, no other battles will be considered 
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Re: Make it to Yeshiva 17 Jul 2022 01:37 #383435

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YG, you are healthy. You have hormones. But you are in a precarious situation. I also work with females and it can get dangerous.

One point- not related to religion, if you are in normal country, you need to be super careful about any relationship or action with her. Even jokes. You don't want to be sued and ruined by unexpected workplace harassment accusations. These things happen ALL the time. It won't help to say that she was hitting on you etc. Be professional!!!!

Back to Yidishkeit and kedusha, you need to be makpid on basic halachic rules and guidelines. Do you know hilchos yichud? There is a whole siman in shulchan aruch that talks about not flirting and not gazing etc. Learn it and save your life and your sanity. No joking with them. No talking about personal things, family, feelings... I have a bit of a hard time with this myself but i still try. And it keeps me safe. And alive.

Be well. Be smart. Be strong.
Last Edit: 17 Jul 2022 01:43 by frank.lee. Reason: clarity

Re: Make it to Yeshiva 17 Jul 2022 01:42 #383437

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Also, i need to say, it is very hard. If i was in your position, i would be in huge trouble. So I'm not judging you.

One more point. Even if they are flirting with you and being suggestive, as men we take it the wrong way. They want attention, we think they want s... They want attention, we think they want to marry us. Etc.

Re: Make it to Yeshiva 21 Jul 2022 00:11 #383630

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Hey guys
I am clueless on what to say. 
Idk I’m confused just so so confused and reluctant to speak to anyone about it…
Could masterbate etc to numb this inner turmoil but that’s stupid
Last Edit: 21 Jul 2022 00:14 by yeshivaguy.

Re: Make it to Yeshiva 21 Jul 2022 02:41 #383640

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YeshivaGuy wrote on 21 Jul 2022 00:11:
Hey guys
I am clueless on what to say. 
Idk I’m confused just so so confused and reluctant to speak to anyone about it…
Could masterbate etc to numb this inner turmoil but that’s stupid

There must be someone in your life (no - not the secretary…) that’s safe to share whatever is going on with you and that will accept you unconditionally. 
I can’t believe you don’t have that!
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Re: Make it to Yeshiva 21 Jul 2022 02:48 #383642

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Markz wrote on 21 Jul 2022 02:41:

YeshivaGuy wrote on 21 Jul 2022 00:11:
Hey guys
I am clueless on what to say. 
Idk I’m confused just so so confused and reluctant to speak to anyone about it…
Could masterbate etc to numb this inner turmoil but that’s stupid

There must be someone in your life (no - not the secretary…) that’s safe to share whatever is going on with you and that will accept you unconditionally. 
I can’t believe you don’t have that!

unfortunately, some people do not have that person in their life that will accept them unconditionally.  That adds to the pain.  However, there are people on this site that will speak on the phone and that is a good start...
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some of the experiences I write about may make it easier to identify me.  This is ok.  I trust that if anyone discovers my identity they will keep it to themselves.  If you do realize that you  know me, I am completely comfortable and welcome you acknowledging me and my struggle in person.

Re: Make it to Yeshiva 21 Jul 2022 03:20 #383645

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Vehkam wrote on 21 Jul 2022 02:48:

Markz wrote on 21 Jul 2022 02:41:

YeshivaGuy wrote on 21 Jul 2022 00:11:
Hey guys
I am clueless on what to say. 
Idk I’m confused just so so confused and reluctant to speak to anyone about it…
Could masterbate etc to numb this inner turmoil but that’s stupid

There must be someone in your life (no - not the secretary…) that’s safe to share whatever is going on with you and that will accept you unconditionally. 
I can’t believe you don’t have that!

unfortunately, some people do not have that person in their life that will accept them unconditionally.  That adds to the pain.  However, there are people on this site that will speak on the phone and that is a good start...

Thanks, I guess I have such ppl but always open to new ones.
Ive been so so busy that I haven’t been thinking, the exact thing the Mesilas Yesharim says NOT to do.
Im scared to think because I don’t want to face myself and my feelings.
Im embarrassed to open up right now and I don’t think I should be accepted unconditionally.
I don’t think I deserve that. 

On the outside everything is going beyond amazing bh. And maybe it is, maybe I’m expecting myself to be too self aware and conscious. I just see that I’ve been letting myself be on auto pilot, not allowing myself a moment of rest. I can’t even wash my hands, get dressed, go to the bathroom etc unless I’m listening to a podcast or something.
Last Edit: 21 Jul 2022 03:23 by yeshivaguy.

Re: Make it to Yeshiva 21 Jul 2022 03:28 #383646

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YeshivaGuy wrote on 21 Jul 2022 03:20:

Vehkam wrote on 21 Jul 2022 02:48:

Markz wrote on 21 Jul 2022 02:41:

YeshivaGuy wrote on 21 Jul 2022 00:11:
Hey guys
I am clueless on what to say. 
Idk I’m confused just so so confused and reluctant to speak to anyone about it…
Could masterbate etc to numb this inner turmoil but that’s stupid

There must be someone in your life (no - not the secretary…) that’s safe to share whatever is going on with you and that will accept you unconditionally. 
I can’t believe you don’t have that!

unfortunately, some people do not have that person in their life that will accept them unconditionally.  That adds to the pain.  However, there are people on this site that will speak on the phone and that is a good start...

Thanks, I guess I have such ppl but always open to new ones.
Ive been so so busy that I haven’t been thinking, the exact thing the Mesilas Yesharim says NOT to do.
Im scared to think because I don’t want to face myself and my feelings.
Im embarrassed to open up right now and I don’t think I should be accepted unconditionally.
I don’t think I deserve that. 

anyone who is trying to work on overcoming their yetzer hara should be accepted unconditionally.  you don't have to "deserve" it.  You should not be judging yourself either.   there is only one judge in the world - that is the ribono shel olam and he already knows all your secrets and he loves you anyway.....  
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some of the experiences I write about may make it easier to identify me.  This is ok.  I trust that if anyone discovers my identity they will keep it to themselves.  If you do realize that you  know me, I am completely comfortable and welcome you acknowledging me and my struggle in person.

Re: Make it to Yeshiva 21 Jul 2022 03:37 #383648

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Vehkam wrote on 21 Jul 2022 03:28:

YeshivaGuy wrote on 21 Jul 2022 03:20:

Vehkam wrote on 21 Jul 2022 02:48:

Markz wrote on 21 Jul 2022 02:41:

YeshivaGuy wrote on 21 Jul 2022 00:11:
Hey guys
I am clueless on what to say. 
Idk I’m confused just so so confused and reluctant to speak to anyone about it…
Could masterbate etc to numb this inner turmoil but that’s stupid

There must be someone in your life (no - not the secretary…) that’s safe to share whatever is going on with you and that will accept you unconditionally. 
I can’t believe you don’t have that!

unfortunately, some people do not have that person in their life that will accept them unconditionally.  That adds to the pain.  However, there are people on this site that will speak on the phone and that is a good start...

Thanks, I guess I have such ppl but always open to new ones.
Ive been so so busy that I haven’t been thinking, the exact thing the Mesilas Yesharim says NOT to do.
Im scared to think because I don’t want to face myself and my feelings.
Im embarrassed to open up right now and I don’t think I should be accepted unconditionally.
I don’t think I deserve that. 

anyone who is trying to work on overcoming their yetzer hara should be accepted unconditionally.  you don't have to "deserve" it.  You should not be judging yourself either.   there is only one judge in the world - that is the ribono shel olam and he already knows all your secrets and he loves you anyway.....  

thanks.
idk if this is about the yetzer hara though…

Re: Make it to Yeshiva 21 Jul 2022 03:59 #383650

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Sorry. I responded without going back and reading the context.  Hatzlocha!
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some of the experiences I write about may make it easier to identify me.  This is ok.  I trust that if anyone discovers my identity they will keep it to themselves.  If you do realize that you  know me, I am completely comfortable and welcome you acknowledging me and my struggle in person.

Re: Make it to Yeshiva 23 Jul 2022 22:45 #383751

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Hi YG!! Are you ok? How was Shabbos?

Re: Make it to Yeshiva 24 Jul 2022 03:52 #383760

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Thanks for asking.
Shabbos was pretty cool bh.
Was by a special person, a Lubavitcher actually, was nice and had very interesting conversations etc.

Camp is going well even with all the craziness with the counselors working under me. 

Being around girls though they’re younger reminds me constantly of what I lack and the occasional flirting is weird since they’re younger than me.
Wanting to pursue things makes me feel like a pervert etc

Makes me feel like I should start dating…
Mind is saying to take it out on bad vids etc, I just know that it’s not what I want (clean like 9 days btw)…

And yes I do realize that I’m making it sound like starting to date is a bad thing…
Last Edit: 24 Jul 2022 04:40 by yeshivaguy.

Re: Make it to Yeshiva 24 Jul 2022 15:45 #383784

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One condescending or disgusted look could stop it, or hurt them. I don't know. Maybe putting on a show of being 'too yeshivish for that', however you feel would help. I know what you mean about it reminding you what you lack, but then, i get that wya seeing anyone with anything i once wanted.
Good luck, and with all the kids and cousnelors you have to handle, and make sure you know where the posion oak is. Comes in handy sometimes..
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