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Re: how our generation came to this ? 28 Jun 2017 17:34 #316318

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sheleg wrote on 28 Jun 2017 15:57:
i am uncomfortable with the GYE derech to solving lust addictions.
This kovesh es yitzro method is too painful to those of us who are not giborim.
I would like to find an easier method to curing my addictions then what GYE offers.
I am jealous of the Orthodox Jewish woman.
she seems to be free of lust without much work.
What is the secret ingredient that keeps a bais yacob yeshiva graduate a prude ?
While we orthodox men can't control lustful desires.
it's not fair !!
and no one seems to care.

This is a decent first post.
I have what to say on every line, but I won't.

I'm no gibbor (name was taken already), and I don't use the "koveish es yitzro" tactic.

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Re: how our generation came to this ? 28 Jun 2017 17:34 #316319

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Markz wrote on 28 Jun 2017 17:09:

sheleg wrote:
I want to stop my addiction becouse I am Orthodox and its out of character for me to act this way.


Oh, I thought you were Presbyterian

sheleg wrote:
I am looking for some easy segulah
To transform me into holyness and purity.



Some hot holy waters should do the trick and your nose may start melting One Drop at a time

sheleg wrote:
Ain ucir mater es atzmoe.
I can give good advice to others but to apply it to myself is not so simple.
The likelihood for older singles to find their zivug is slim to none.
on the other hand this young bochir
can find a bride quicker and faster then I can.
So for him this advice is more realistic.



That advice was unwarranted
This is the last call


sheleg wrote:
I am looking for some easy segulah
To transform me into holyness and purity.



It doesn't exist and you have no benefit in hibernating on gye for your current mindset, a hot cuppa coffee awaits you on YWN

Please share what recovery step you took today or else this thread will simply have to join your igloo and freeze at 9pm tonight

Mark Iceberg

While I might share  your sentiments Markz 
I think a chilling out is in order for you and let the man breathe a little 
Sheleg seems to have gotten the message so let us give him his space for a little to recalculate his life.
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Re: how our generation came to this ? 28 Jun 2017 19:52 #316337

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sheleg wrote on 28 Jun 2017 16:17:
I am looking for some easy segulah 
To transform me into holyness and purity.

How bought this. If you do not yet have a filter and accountability software, get it. 
Hatzlacha 

Re: how our generation came to this ? 28 Jun 2017 20:01 #316338

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Re: how our generation came to this ? 28 Jun 2017 22:57 #316376

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Thanks Sheleg for sharing! I feel your pain! Like Cordnoy, i also dont try to kovesh my yitzro but surrender all lust to God. I am powerless over it and I cant handle it. 

I see you have some anger towards our situation. Thats perfectly normal and understandable but i must be perfectly honest. I have a problem. perhaps the girls do too but i have to change me. I cant change anyone else. I am responsible for my life. I need to approach my problems honestly and handle it or not handle it, depending on the problem. Somethings i can change, somethings i cant. 

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Re: how our generation came to this ? 29 Jun 2017 03:01 #316395

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Does a Moderator give me a regular user permission to close sheleg' personal thread?
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Re: how our generation came to this ? 29 Jun 2017 03:27 #316398

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Markz wrote on 29 Jun 2017 03:01:
Does a Moderator give me a regular user permission to close sheleg' personal thread?

Being that Sheleg is reaching out for help now, why would you want to close his thread? Besides, you don't have to read his personal thread if you don't want to in the first place.
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Re: how our generation came to this ? 29 Jun 2017 03:34 #316399

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Markz wrote on 29 Jun 2017 03:01:
Does a Moderator give me a regular user permission to close sheleg' personal thread?

Before looking into closing his thread, look into blocking his posts on others thread.

Re: how our generation came to this ? 29 Jun 2017 03:54 #316401

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sheleg wrote on 28 Jun 2017 00:17:
Markz,,,
Forbidden relationships don't last because a Jewish wedding has shevah brouchos.
And a forbidden relationship has none.



cordnoy wrote on 28 Jun 2017 17:34:

sheleg wrote on 28 Jun 2017 15:57:
i am uncomfortable with the GYE derech to solving lust addictions.
This kovesh es yitzro method is too painful to those of us who are not giborim.
I would like to find an easier method to curing my addictions then what GYE offers.
I am jealous of the Orthodox Jewish woman.
she seems to be free of lust without much work.
What is the secret ingredient that keeps a bais yacob yeshiva graduate a prude ?
While we orthodox men can't control lustful desires.
it's not fair !!
and no one seems to care.

This is a decent first post.
I have what to say on every line, but I won't.

I'm no gibbor (name was taken already), and I don't use the "koveish es yitzro" tactic.

Thanks for stickin' around.

I beg to disagree

The last line of his clarifies his intention 

I'll consider this an extension of the Depressed person's chill spot until moderator give me permission to end this thread

(As a regular user I only know how to shut a thread, not individual posts)

I don't know why you guys are all ice skating around this guys posts
HHM you always have secret info, but according to what I know from the forum there's no basis for what you said 

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Sheleg is another telemarketer
Enjoy his ride 

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Re: how our generation came to this ? 29 Jun 2017 03:58 #316402

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Hey. Could we cut out the mud slinging. Those that are interested, join in the discussion/debate. Those that are not, find a different thread on this forum for the meantime.
If any heavy decision needs to be made let the powers that be make that determination. 

Re: how our generation came to this ? 29 Jun 2017 04:03 #316403

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yiraishamaim wrote on 29 Jun 2017 03:58:
Hey. Could we cut out the mud slinging. Those that are interested, join in the discussion/debate. Those that are not, find a different thread on this forum for the meantime.
If any heavy decision needs to be made let the powers that be make that determination. 

I'm subscribed to all threads on gye and others may be too
Why should I change my subscription?
is the guy here to make jokes or to recover 

Stupidity like his forbidden relationship comment copied in my previous post leads one to think he's not here for recovery especially when he admitted to having relationship but can't give an intelligent answer
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Re: how our generation came to this ? 29 Jun 2017 10:44 #316412

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Markz wrote on 29 Jun 2017 04:03:

yiraishamaim wrote on 29 Jun 2017 03:58:
Hey. Could we cut out the mud slinging. Those that are interested, join in the discussion/debate. Those that are not, find a different thread on this forum for the meantime.
If any heavy decision needs to be made let the powers that be make that determination. 

I'm subscribed to all threads on gye and others may be too
Why should I change my subscription?
is the guy here to make jokes or to recover 

Stupidity like his forbidden relationship comment copied in my previous post leads one to think he's not here for recovery especially when he admitted to having relationship but can't give an intelligent answer

Markz please do not take this the wrong way
I have not seen any recent posts from Sheleg that were out of order in fact there seems to be a change in his attitude and yet you are still blasting him for his original posts  so of course he will not answer you,       I wouldn't 

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Re: how our generation came to this ? 29 Jun 2017 11:11 #316414

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I can't unsubscribe from this thread. I only see a subscribe button


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Im subscribed to receive emails to any posts in this category

Asking me not to read this thread is irrelevant because sheleg was posting on other people's threads too

His recent posts were not out of order, because they were non existent, he didn't post recently

Many of his last posts were out of order
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I said what I said, now can we move on already?

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Re: how our generation came to this ? 29 Jun 2017 13:09 #316422

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While this is one of the more extreme examples, sometimes people come here and say absolutely crazy things because they actually really plainly simply don't get it, and they can be beliggerent about it. Once he said that he's not a troll and was honest about just wanting a shortcut, I think we can at least temporarily take him at his word.

Then if we see that the same old continues we can re-brand him as a troll. In the meantime, I don't know if he'll be back. 

Re: how our generation came to this ? 30 Jun 2017 04:04 #316479

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Even if he is not a troll and truly doesn't get it. Shleg does not seem to be listening to anybody.

So regardless if he is a troll or not, I agree with markz that this thread either belongs in depressed person's chill spot ( because it is funny - or at least marks posts are) or should be nuked. Unless shleg can show us that he is listening.

He just seems to say his thing till his next ridiculous post.
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