Gye promotes honesty

As soon as you're married, I want you to honestly tell your new wife what you just wrote - it's a biblical obligation!!

I do not want to write what her reaction may be - it may be her last

Will you share it with her?

Of course not.
So then it's a bunch of...

a Wife is supposed to learn this in kallah class.
honestly I don't think they do.
And that's why I wrote in the header.
"How are generation came to this ?
when these wives will learn in kallah class to fulfill the lustful desires of their husbands.
The crises will be over and there will be no need for gye.
I am not worried about wives not wanting to full fill this role.
They just have to be told that it is a Torah commandment to do so with gusto.  after all eve also ate from the forbidden and lustful fruit.

After Peloni Almoni retired Hardcore Cornography I was wishing hoping waiting to see who would replace him and bring some life to gye

Apparently it was worth the wait

sheleg wrote on 26 Jun 2017 14:28:

So you should qualify your future wife before you get married and not after like Markz suggested

sheleg wrote on 26 Jun 2017 14:00:

I thought "cling" meant to have public sex with your wife.

MARKZ.
Tell me where I can read what peloni almoni said about hardcore cornography.

No, you can do better I think


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Yup got it.

Sheleg - how old are you? 
Where you married?

another question: Why are you worried about 'our Generation', why don't you first get yourself cleaned and rewired?

unanumun wrote on 26 Jun 2017 12:48:

Wow! Long time no see. We do have an expert on hand- you!! It's good to see you. 

Folks,

While any longstanding member clearly finds what sheleg says troubling, I think that coming at him this hard is probably widening the gap. I think there is enough inconsistency and fallacy in his own opinion that we need look no further.

Sheleg,
First of all, if a woman isn't in the mood, then her husband isn't allowed to be with her. See Shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim 240. It's called בני אנוסה. She isn't obligated to be with him all the time; the Poskim are prettty clear that she cannot refuse to EVER be with him, but she doesn't have to be with him whenever he wants, and if he does he is violating בני אנוסה. If he is thinking of other people he saw (in porn or on the street) he isn't allowed to be with her either.

The Shulchan Aruch says that you are supposed to approach intimacy as one who is paying the debt they owe to their wife, and they should feel as if a demon was forcing them to do it. Obviously not to convey that to their wife, but the meforshim say what that means is that he is NOT doing it out of lust but because he has an obligation to.

Torah needs a Mesorah and a Rebbi. There is no Sefer and no commentary that I have ever seen that has your view. Where did you get your view from?

Working 
Coming down hard helps those that can get confused 

As far as snowy is concerned I do not think a long winded discussion on the forum is the answer maybe Dov can give him a call

Hi sheleg.  Lustaholics before GYE are experts at acting out and hiding the evidence.

After being exposed to GYE, then we begin our journey of study and working a personal program for recovery. Like you, I also came on the site foolishly thinking that I could just use ideas and simplistic techniques that are helpful in other areas of life. 
Take a deep breath and humbly take a seat back and learn.  for your sake DO NOT GO AWAY
You owe it to yourself to stick it out. Once you change your attitude you will be one of the team.

Welcome sheleg!  I would recommend reading "dov quotes".  There is a link in my signature.  Some of what is being said here may seem like Chineese.  The dov quotes will probably sound that way as well.  Recovery for most of us required us to change the way we think.   There is a lot of collective wisdom here.  Be patient.  Some things will make sense.  Some won't. Some will make sense over time. 

I try to use the pragmatic approach.  See what works.  Don't try to "understand" what works.  Recovery really requires Naasesh V'nishma.  Some things don't make sense until after we try them.  See what works and then stick to it.  Many of us make the mistake of analyzing too much, and I count myself among them.

My favorite line from your post is "I Have decided to do everything in my power to quit."  That is where it all begins.  Don't ever give up!  Keep posting.