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Re: WILL SUCCEED BE 09 Jan 2017 14:50 #302613

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will Succeed Beh wrote on 09 Jan 2017 14:23:

I'v been struggling the past week with non Jewish movies, that keeps me setting back, didn’t fall but it can bring close.

So I was thinking of making a TaPHSiC Shvua on not watching non Jewish movies, I asked my Mentor what he thinks about it, he said he thinks it’s a good idea, but its best I should ask people inside GYE what they think about it.

So what do you think about it?


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Re: WILL SUCCEED BE 09 Jan 2017 15:06 #302614

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cordnoy wrote on 09 Jan 2017 14:34:

will Succeed Beh wrote on 09 Jan 2017 14:23:

I'v been struggling the past week with non Jewish movies, that keeps me setting back, didn’t fall but it can bring close.

So I was thinking of making a TaPHSiC Shvua on not watching non Jewish movies, I asked my Mentor what he thinks about it, he said he thinks it’s a good idea, but its best I should ask people inside GYE what they think about it.

So what do you think about it?


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Re: WILL SUCCEED BE 09 Jan 2017 15:08 #302615

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Singularity wrote on 09 Jan 2017 14:37:
So what's Jewish movies? Steven Speilberg? Ben Stiller, Adam Sandler?

What i call Jewish is - Grovies, the Yidish Plays, or just simple music videos.
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Re: WILL SUCCEED BE 09 Jan 2017 15:32 #302617

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Shlomo24 wrote on 09 Jan 2017 14:50:
Why jump straight to Taphshic? Have you tried stopping?

Yes Sholomo i have tried stopping more than once, the past week was the first time i saw i non Jewish movie (except fireproof) since i am sober.

you know how it goes one weak moment and your getting sucked into it again, i can say im somewhat (or more) addicted to movies!!!  and i want to get off it!
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Re: WILL SUCCEED BE 09 Jan 2017 16:57 #302621

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I had/have the same issue with movies. Before GYE I knew other people struggled with p&m but never realized so many also struggled with tv/movies! 

Re: WILL SUCCEED BE 09 Jan 2017 19:07 #302631

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I think it's a good idea to stop watching movies, however i agree with shlomo that you shouldn't jump to TAPHSIC shvua. Maybe try backing away from movies little by little- no PG-13 then no PG, etc. From personal experiance it might not be good to stop cold turkey, but of course everyone is different

Re: WILL SUCCEED BE 09 Jan 2017 19:19 #302632

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360gye wrote on 09 Jan 2017 19:07:
I think it's a good idea to stop watching movies, however i agree with shlomo that you shouldn't jump to TAPHSIC shvua. Maybe try backing away from movies little by little- no PG-13 then no PG, etc. From personal experiance it might not be good to stop cold turkey, but of course everyone is different

I do not totally agree with you, as when i stopped smoking, the only way it worked was by stopping at once, i did take breaks that Bein Hazmanim i did smoke etc. but when i didn't i was cold turkey, i'm now nearly 4 years smoke-free.

Could be that a Shavua is to far just because if i would fall on movies, it would pull me down in p&m as well....

But i wouldnt make it as severe as my system in p&m (here), just a single fence with a £50 Knas, if the YH would persuade me that it's worth watching it even with all the problems i get from it, then let let him persuade me that it is worth 50 bucks (witch would be harder....)
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Re: WILL SUCCEED BE 10 Jan 2017 08:03 #302685

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In our SAA meeting last night, the topic was avoiding temptation, and I explained the TaPHSiC method, as best as one could to a room of mainly non-jews =3

It's a temptation-blocker, sure. But I wouldn't advocate its sole use. It must be used in conjunction with other stuff.

Tell me, do you like movies, like as a break, or are you addicted to them? I was addicted to TV shows, would knock out seasons in one sitting. But I broke out of it. BH. How? Gradual progression. And the wife and I sit down to a good animated animal film every now and then.
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Re: WILL SUCCEED BE 10 Jan 2017 11:09 #302694

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I am addicted to movies, last Motzei Shabbes i came home about 12 @ night coz i got pulled into movies, and i keep on watching even if i knew that its going to be on the Cheshben of the urgent thing needed to be done, and on the cheshben of my wife and job....

So yes i am addicted to movies {mostly crime & action}, and even as im an addict i have got some self control, as of today im 41 days sober - just on the TaPHSiC Method.... (will probably start the 12 steps soon, will post about it!)

But could be that i should have more of a balance...
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Re: WILL SUCCEED BE 10 Jan 2017 12:22 #302699

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will Succeed Beh wrote:

I'v been struggling the past week with non Jewish movies, that keeps me setting back, didn’t fall but it can bring close.

So I was thinking of making a TaPHSiC Shvua on not watching non Jewish movies, I asked my Mentor what he thinks about it, he said he thinks it’s a good idea, but its best I should ask people inside GYE what they think about it.

So what do you think about it?


I recommend such Taphsics - I use such too - click on the word "restrictions" in my signature for an example

This is unlike regular Taphsics that are designed for extreme white knuckling situations which wouldn't help me
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Re: WILL SUCCEED BE 10 Jan 2017 14:11 #302711

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Markz wrote on 10 Jan 2017 12:22:

will Succeed Beh wrote:

I'v been struggling the past week with non Jewish movies, that keeps me setting back, didn’t fall but it can bring close.

So I was thinking of making a TaPHSiC Shvua on not watching non Jewish movies, I asked my Mentor what he thinks about it, he said he thinks it’s a good idea, but its best I should ask people inside GYE what they think about it.

So what do you think about it?


I recommend such Taphsics - I use such too - click on the word "restrictions" in my signature for an example

This is unlike regular Taphsics that are designed for extreme white knuckling situations which wouldn't help me

I already had a conversation in mini 196 about having something like a 90 day chart for other type of Kabolles, a few suggested habitbull - but thats a smartphone app, and i just use a computer...
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Re: WILL SUCCEED BE 10 Jan 2017 17:13 #302727

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I don't see what you have to lose by not watching those movies.  Gedarim are important, (although as some have mentioned, they don't solve the entire problem).  They can help, so why not use them.

Re: WILL SUCCEED BE 10 Jan 2017 19:14 #302741

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Thank you all for the warm and caring responses

I spoke with my mentor yesterday about everything including the movies issue, i realised that the whole movie addiction is in sync with the p&m addiction.

There is a certain hole inside me, craving to be filled {addiction} ! and that keeps me wanting to go back to p&m, and when im not getting it, i try to fill it with other substances like movies etc. So its all one big issue that needs to be dealt....
i notices another interesting thing that Shabes by Davening i get so tense just by thinking - the whole week i escape from being with myself, and when it comes Shabes especially by Davening, my mind starts rolling so fast that i cant cope, i start thinking about money and fantasising of porn, anything just not have time to connect with myself....

He advised me to start with the 12 Step's, he'll find me a sponsor, help me get the literature, he said he'll even fly over for my first SA meeting (not sure yet if i'll do it) .... 

I'll keep you posted whats going on BEH.
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Re: WILL SUCCEED BE 10 Jan 2017 19:31 #302745

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Thx fro sharing your thoughts. 
\what do you think the hole inside of you is? how did it come about do you think?
From what you just said it sounds like the hole is a lose of time to connect with yourself...

Re: WILL SUCCEED BE 12 Jan 2017 09:27 #302922

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I fell im slipping!!!!!!!!!
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טאטע! אפילו איך שפיר זיך ווייט פון דיר, אוי אוי אוי
ווייס איך אז די ביסט נאנט צו מיר אזוי, אוי אוי אוי
מיט ליבשאפט ווי אן איינציג קינד, פון בענקשאפט א טרערעלע רינט
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