Git voch just want to check in I wasn't here writing for about a week I'm ok b"h on day 5

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Hi I have a question I was at a place were I shouldn't be a clean place and I looked on a girl there quite a few times my question is. Is that a fall or a slip I really don't want its should be a fall because if its is I will fall all the way no question about it

Getting married wrote:


Are you being serious?

Are you being serious?

Why do you think I'm not I'm

Getting married wrote:


For.....
A you write it is a place you shouldn't be....but it is a clean place
B lookin' at a girl several times, and you are not sure if it's a fall.
C you have no doubt that if it is a fall, you will fall all the way. Why? Is your streak what's saving you? If it is, does that make sense? Are you really accomplishing anything? When will you come up for air?

cordnoy wrote:

A its totally clean place but I know when ever I'm going there I'm getting lost by the surrounding (girls) I have tried to avoid it lately
B/C I know its a fall by the rules the think is why I don't want its should be a fall because its will lead to m and maybe p. For a day or 2 and then I will get back up
C I didn't got it at all (I have a slow head )

Getting married wrote:


Might be time for you to use a different tool.
It seems like you're simply holding your breath.

cordnoy wrote:
Hey I didn't know waterboarding was one of the tools
I highly recommend it for our isis members

If you're not isis, try get a hitch to cordnoys truck, or install a GPS provided in my signature

cordnoy wrote:


Cordnoy,
I want to say two things- one where I agree, but one where I'm not sure if you're being helpful to him.
I think that if he is not acting out in the meantime and he is aware of what can make him fall, he is definitely accomplishing something. Even if he is holding his breath, that's definitely better than not. So I don't think it's fair to question whether he's accomplishing anything at all.

On the other hand, I think we're all (or many of us) aware that addiction is the mental obsession. So, we have obsessive thinking where we say- and I know I've said this in the past- well, if I lose my count of 90 days I'm going to go all the way down. Or, if I have a fall, I'll fall hard. Why do we do that? Because the mental obsession tells us that we're down anyway, so we may as well.

However, when we've made the decision that we really WANT to stop, then that becomes unreasonable to us.

So where I agree with you is of that is still the thought process going on- that if I'm down I'm just going to fall more- then maybe he needs to try something else besides what he's doing now.

I should say though that even in twelve steps many people who slip binge on their way down before they get back up. So even if he should join twelve steps, there is no guarantee that if he should have a fall, he wouldn't do that either. I think it's important to be clear that there is no magic pill.

Getting married wrote:


I don't want to get too nitty gritty, but there are rules to what's considered a fall on GYE, i don't have their exact link but I'm sure somebody has it handy.

To all those who try "holding their breath": Enjoy your time in that space, you might want to bring some sunscreen because it is going to be really hot there. Oh, also say hi to Lucifer for me. We used to know each other quite well.

I really appreciate your time and effort to help me
#1 I can say when I started here and I wrote in my introduction that I feel I'm fighting it the whole the and for sure when its comes later when I'm starting to feel I miss something yes I was holding my breath but I can say now its much easier and during the day I'm not feeling it so much
#2 about falling there is by me 2 thinks of falling 1 is p.&m. And the other is שמירת עיניים maybe I'm wrong but this is it and over here its one and because that I feel its so hard for me to reset it
#3 about falling all the way I think I wrote it falling means for a day or 2 not that I'm giving up the whole think (by the way thanks workingguy to understand me ) I can say that I miss it and I don't think there is here someone that can say that he doesn't and when I'm falling I'm taking already everything even I know its a separate עבירה
By the way I reset my chart

Getting married wrote:


Sorry,
I don't really understand what you wrote.
By the way, my suggestion was not to reset.

B'hatzlachah

getting married wrote:

I also understood you, and I think cordnoy does too