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Re: Poll: What was your Primary Source of Recovery? 09 Mar 2016 00:55 #280721

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Yesodi.....very well written.
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Opening up GYE to "Klal Yisrael"? 09 Mar 2016 01:40 #280729

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Yesodi wrote on 09 Mar 2016 00:38:

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    At the "stylistic" level, this means the GYE forum very often uses a Frum, predominantly "Yeshivish," and I dare say also an "American Eshkenazi," style of language. 






Thank you, @cordnoy, for understanding me.

BTW: maybe this is an appropriate place to raise my thoughts regarding the above stylistic issue.

Of course, it is perfectly understandable (and I guess also expected) that such a religious-based site, started and backed by Frum Jews, should take on such a "Frum" style and atmosphere.  I not really suggesting otherwise on a practical level!

But nevertheless, I'm kinda "thinking out loud" now: IMHO, in a certain sense, it is quite unfortunate that this site projects such an exclusively Frum and Yeshivish look-and-feel to it, which most certainly makes it appear "out-of-bounds" to the majority of Klal Yisrael, who have sadly not yet fully-joined us in committing to a full life of Torah and Mitzvot.

If we see that significant number of secular Bnei Noach have begun "seeing the light," then surely many, many, of our fellow brothers and sisters inside Am Yisrael -- even if they might still define themselves as secular (or "Conservative" or "Reform" or whatever) -- have similarly decided that they need to seek recovery from this curse! So, wouldn't it be nice if, somehow, at least part of GYE could appeal to them as well? And perhaps, via this initial, limited, contact with the world of Kdusha, they could start discovering opportunities to sanctifying other aspects of their personal lives as well.

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Re: Poll: What was your Primary Source of Recovery? 09 Mar 2016 03:17 #280736

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They can if they want to. There is a member of GYE who is not jewish and he posts every day. There is also a very big mailah of having an identity and even exclusivity to an extent. GYE is very good at promoting comfort to those who want to seek it out. While I don't speak for GYE, I assume that the people who run GYE are frum jews who have most experience dealing with frum jews. GYE was started to address an issue that may be worldwide, but it was specifically for the frum community because of stigma and shame and whatnot.
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Re: Poll: What was your Primary Source of Recovery? 09 Mar 2016 03:26 #280737

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I would add that there are plenty of less-committed Jews on this site too, it really doesn't matter we are all committed to work on our lust (and maybe we all ought to be committed too )

And there is also a Yiddish site that has a more Chassidish flavor to it, a Hebrew site for Israelis, as well as French and Spanish.
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Re: Poll: What was your Primary Source of Recovery? 09 Mar 2016 03:43 #280738

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Yesodi,

IMHO in low level addiction to Porn and Mast like myself, if we take Gd out of the equation I'd never have looked to change my life, which is why there's more religious guys here than elsewhere

Acc to my little research the non jewish / irreligious world, Masturbation isn't condoned at all

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Totally separate sites for different languages 09 Mar 2016 06:23 #280773

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Gevura Shebyesod wrote on 09 Mar 2016 03:26:

And there is also a Yiddish site that has a more Chassidish flavor to it, a Hebrew site for Israelis, as well as French and Spanish.

Yes, and that raises another question/comment that I had:
IMHO, it's unfortunate that all these sites are "totally separate."

I for example, have a separate login for this English site and for the Hebrew site. (So far, I've only been writing here, because I can type much faster in English, but I still like to read the stuff in Hebrew.) With the way things are now, I need to update my counter separately on both sites, which is a hassle.

Is there a technological limitation with the Kunena platform that caused this situation?
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Re: Totally separate sites for different languages 09 Mar 2016 10:44 #280782

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Yesodi wrote on 09 Mar 2016 06:23:

Gevura Shebyesod wrote on 09 Mar 2016 03:26:

And there is also a Yiddish site that has a more Chassidish flavor to it, a Hebrew site for Israelis, as well as French and Spanish.



Yes, and that raises another question/comment that I had:
IMHO, it's unfortunate that all these sites are "totally separate."

I for example, have a separate login for this English site and for the Hebrew site. (So far, I've only been writing here, because I can type much faster in English, but I still like to read the stuff in Hebrew.) With the way things are now, I need to update my counter separately on both sites, which is a hassle.

Is there a technological limitation with the Kunena platform that caused this situation?

I agree with this sentiment.
Perhaps there is a reason though.
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Re: Poll: What was your Primary Source of Recovery? 09 Mar 2016 16:01 #280824

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If i can bring the conversation back to this thread title for a moment, i'm a little confused. Whats recovery?
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Re: Poll: What was your Primary Source of Recovery? 19 Jul 2016 16:56 #292253

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stillgoing wrote on 09 Mar 2016 16:01:
If i can bring the conversation back to this thread title for a moment, i'm a little confused. Whats recovery?

have you discovered the answer yet. And how do you vote today
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Re: Poll: What was your Primary Source of Recovery? 19 Jul 2016 17:44 #292263

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No, Not yet. Nor do I remember what I meant when I wrote that post. Currently I don't know or care if I will recover, the importantly thing is that I get through today (gosh! I'm starting to sound like cords now).Things that have helped me have been, gye - mostly the forum, and the real live people it has introduced me to.
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Re: Poll: What was your Primary Source of Recovery? 19 Jul 2016 18:20 #292270

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Re: Poll: What was your Primary Source of Recovery? 19 Jul 2016 18:35 #292271

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stillgoing wrote on 19 Jul 2016 17:44:
(gosh! I'm starting to sound like cords now).

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
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Re: Poll: What was your Primary Source of Recovery? 20 Jul 2016 00:59 #292290

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cordnoy wrote on 19 Jul 2016 18:35:

stillgoing wrote on 19 Jul 2016 17:44:
(gosh! I'm starting to sound like cords now).

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
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I'm ok with the way I sound now, but I'll admit, that when I first came to gye, I found all of the "I don't care - only today" thingy to be a little obsessive.
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Re: Poll: What was your Primary Source of Recovery? 20 Jul 2016 14:17 #292330

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stillgoing wrote on 20 Jul 2016 00:59:

cordnoy wrote on 19 Jul 2016 18:35:

stillgoing wrote on 19 Jul 2016 17:44:
(gosh! I'm starting to sound like cords now).

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
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I'm ok with the way I sound now, but I'll admit, that when I first came to gye, I found all of the "I don't care - only today" thingy to be a little obsessive.

Me too, and to be honest I thought it was fine up to a point, but when taken too far becomes counter-productive.
Then one day one post hit me and it started to make sense. It's good to plan long term, but the only way to actually get anywhere is by focusing on today only.
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Re: Poll: What was your Primary Source of Recovery? 20 Jul 2016 14:18 #292331

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realsimcha wrote on 09 Mar 2016 00:49:
some of us might be heisa chasidim and some of us might be only marginally frum

Hey realsimcha, is heisa Litvish an option?
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