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Re: Marry him? Why did I? Am I an object?!!! 13 Nov 2015 18:15 #268567

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Two comments to say.
1) Don't take your son to the beach to taste him, absolutely wrong doing.
2) Women do have an obligation to dress properly, לפני עור לא תתן מכשׁול they can't go dressed however they want and blame the men, both sides have to take a share.

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Seeing as this is a men's forum, blaming women will get us nowhere.

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Re: Marry him? Why did I? Am I an object?!!! 13 Nov 2015 19:47 #268573

Eyeglasses OFFLINE Expert Boarder Posts: 119 Karma: 2	I don't say it's their blame, but they can't get a green light, no way.

Re: Marry him? Why did I? Am I an object?!!! 15 Nov 2015 01:38 #268585

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Okay, they don't have a green light. Now what? Does that help us in any way?

Re: Marry him? Why did I? Am I an object?!!! 15 Nov 2015 02:10 #268591

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Bigmoish wrote:

Okay, they don't have a green light. Now what? Does that help us in any way?

Bigmoish wrote:

A foreigner arrives in Israel and gets into a cab. The driver immediately begins zipping around at 160 km/hr, driving dangerously, and running red lights indiscriminately. The tourist, holding on for dear life, begins to say all the tehillim he knows baal peh. All of a sudden, the driver screeches to a halt in front of a green light. The passenger, confused, but thankful for the respite, manages to stammer "W-w-w-w-why did you stop here?"
The driver turns to him and screams "Are you NUTS!?!?!?!? "

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Re: Marry him? Why did I? Am I an object?!!! 15 Nov 2015 03:04 #268594

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is that how you got your teeth knocked out of shape?

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Re: Marry him? Why did I? Am I an object?!!! 15 Nov 2015 03:41 #268597

Markz NOW ONLINE Platinum Boarder Posts: 8258 Karma: 428	Gevura Shebyesod wrote: is that how you got your teeth knocked out of shape? Gevura Shebyesod wrote: 08 Jul 2013 I think that's the first time i ever saw someone here complaining about teething ~~pains~~... they're getting younger every day Wanna Tzummy?
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Re: Marry him? Why did I? Am I an object?!!! 15 Nov 2015 03:54 #268598

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Re: Marry him? Why did I? Am I an object?!!! 15 Nov 2015 04:09 #268600

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Re: Marry him? Why did I? Am I an object?!!! 15 Nov 2015 05:38 #268604

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this is what you 2 bickering individuals remind me of:

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Re: Marry him? Why did I? Am I an object?!!! 15 Nov 2015 10:13 #268614

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Re: Marry him? Why did I? Am I an object?!!! 15 Nov 2015 15:33 #268628

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markz wrote:

Siri wrote:

Someday I am going to have to have the conversation with my son.

No, not the conversation all parents dread giving and all kids are mortified having. I enjoy making people uncomfortable so that conversation should be fun.

No, I’m talking about another conversation. The one that happens after I catch his eye doing what male eyes do well – following an object of lust.

We will probably be out at the mall, because that’s what moms do with their sons, and I’ll catch the look. Maybe we’ll go to the beach and see it. Doesn’t matter where it is, there will come a time when I will see it.

And then it will be time for this conversation: “Hey, come here. Let me talk to you. I saw you look at her. I’m not judging you or shaming you. I know why you did. I get it. But we have to talk about it because how you look at a woman matters. A lot of people will try and tell you that a woman should watch how she dresses so she doesn’t tempt you to look at her wrongly.

Here is what I will tell you. It is a woman’s responsibility to dress herself in the morning.
It is your responsibility to look at her like a human being regardless of what she is wearing.

You will feel the temptation to blame her for your wandering eyes because of what she is wearing – or not wearing. But don’t. Don’t play the victim. You are not a helpless victim when it comes to your eyes. You have full control over them. Exercise that control. Train them to look her in the eyes. Discipline yourself to see her, not her clothes or her body.
The moment you play the victim you fall into the lie that you are simply an embodied reaction to external stimuli unable to determine right from wrong, human from flesh. Look right at me. That is a ridiculous lie.
You are more than that. And the woman you are looking at is more than her clothes. She is more than her body.

There is a lot of talk about how men objectify women, and largely, it is true. Humans objectify the things they love in effort to control them.
If you truly love a person, do not reduce them to an object. The moment you objectify another human – woman or man, you give up your humanity.

There are two views regarding a woman’s dress code that you will be pressured to buy into. One view will say that women need to dress to get the attention of men. The other view will say women need to dress to protect men from themselves. Son, you are better than both of these. A woman, or any human being, should not have to dress to get your attention. You should give them the full attention they deserve simply because they are a fellow human being. On the other side, a woman should not have to feel like she needs to protect you from you. You need to be in control of you. Unfortunately, much of how the sexes interact with each is rooted in fear. Fear of rejection, fear of abuse, fear of being out of control. We fear each other because we have been taught the other is dangerous. We’ve been a taught a woman’s body will cause men to sin. We’re told that if a woman shows too much of her body men will do stupid things.

Let’s be clear: a woman’s body is not dangerous to you. Her body will not cause you harm. It will not make you do stupid things. If you do stupid things it is because you chose to do stupid things.

So don’t contribute to the fear that exists between men and women. A woman’s body is beautiful and wonderful and mysterious. Respect it by respecting her as an individual with hopes and dreams and experiences and emotions and longings. Let her be confident. Encourage her confidence. But don’t do all this because she is weaker. That’s the biggest bunch of crap out there. Women are not weaker than men. They are not the weaker sex. They are the other sex. I’m not telling you to not look at women. Just the opposite. I’m telling you to see women. Really see them. Not just with your eyes, but with your heart. Don’t look to see something that tickles your senses, but see a human being. My hope is that changing how you see women will change how you are around them. Don’t just be around women. Be with women. Because in the end, they want to be with you. Without fear of being judged, or shamed, or condemned, or objectified, or being treated as other. And that’s not just what women want. That’s what people want. Ultimately, it’s what you want.

You wicked mom!!!!

How dare you take your son to the beach to test him?!

We women can dress or undress the way we want bla bla bla and those perverted men should see us as people even though we are purposely flaunting our bodies and objectifying ourselves more that the men do to us bla bla bla and they SHOULD be with women and be looking at them all the time but don't notice their bodies no matter how much is exposed just don't notice it bla bla bla

Re: Marry him? Why did I? Am I an object?!!! 15 Nov 2015 15:38 #268630

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Bigmoish wrote:

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Seeing as this is a men's forum, blaming women will get us nowhere.

Nobody's blaming women. Just making it very clear to men that if you put yourself into the nisoyon you will fall.

Last Edit: 15 Nov 2015 15:38 by Hashivalisesonyishecho.

Re: Marry him? Why did I? Am I an object?!!! 15 Nov 2015 16:03 #268634

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Hashivalisesonyishecho wrote:

You wicked mom!!!!

Ben Siri wrote:

I asked my mommy and she said it was a big big mistake ~~taking me to the beach~~

She was only quoting right out from the book "A conversation between a father and son" by NATE PYLE
She's really sorry - cos that line was NOT appropriate for this forum, so she removed it from her original post, and kindly requests anyone that quoted those evil words to please please remove them so that they don't get kicked off the forum

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Re: Marry him? Why did I? Am I an object?!!! 15 Nov 2015 17:11 #268638

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Re: Marry him? Why did I? Am I an object?!!! 15 Nov 2015 19:55 #268653

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17 Nov 2009

WIFE VS. HUSBAND
A couple drove down a country road for several miles, not saying a word.

An earlier discussion had led to an argument and neither of them wanted to concede their position.

As they passed a barnyard of mules, goats, and pigs, the husband asked sarcastically, 'Relatives of yours?'

'Yep,' the wife replied , 'in-laws''

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WOMEN'S REVENGE..

'Cash, cheque or charge?' I asked, after folding items the woman wished to purchase.

As she fumbled for her wallet I noticed a remote control for a television set in her purse.

'So, do you always carry your TV remote?' I asked.

'No,' she replied, ' but my husband refused to come shopping with me, and I figured this was the most evil thing I could do to him legally.'

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CREATION..

A man said to his wife one day, 'I don't know how you can be so stupid and so beautiful all at the same time.

'The wife responded, 'Allow me to explain.

God made me beautiful so you would be attracted to me.

God made me stupid so I would be attracted to you !!!

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