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TOPIC: Hello friends 7790 Views

Re: Hello friends 27 Sep 2015 07:18 #264777

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markz wrote:

Gettingcloser wrote:

The rabeinu Yonah in ספר שערי העבודהexplains...
Look it up he explains it very באריכות very geshmak

Perhaps you mean feeding the יצר הרע is very geshmak?

Excuse my ignorance, but the 2 great sforim you quote are not readily accessible to everyone on this site, and you also don't give exact sources.
When quoting such radical things that are against what our יצר טוב understands, I'd think it reasonable to ask you my friend please to quote here some short excerpts so we can see exactly what those great rabbis have to say

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איתא בגמרא דנידה )יז א(, דאי
סלקא דעתך משמשין מזכירין אותן לשבח? אין הכי נמי דאגב דאיכא אונס שינה מגניא באפיה. ופירש רש"י 'אונס שינה': מתוך שהוא נאנס בשינה אינו מתאווה לה כל כך ומשמש לקיום מצווה בעלמא או לרצותה ולבו קץ בה, והוא מבני תשע
מדות.

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מסופר על אנשים שאמרו לחסיד שהיה מנשק את בניו רק כשהיה שמח בדבר מצווה, "לפי דבריך, תהרהר ביראת שמים בשעת ביאה שיהיו בניך צדיקים! אמר להם: ברבות התאווה יהיו הבנים צדיקים, לפי שהרהור התורה מבטלת
התאווה".

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Last Edit: 27 Sep 2015 07:31 by Gettingcloser.

Re: Hello friends 27 Sep 2015 13:33 #264797

Markz OFFLINE Platinum Boarder Posts: 8259 Karma: 428	All those sources are regarding Tashmish with wife. Were you trying to make a different point? Please explain where you're trying to go with these Thank you G.C.!!
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Re: Hello friends 27 Sep 2015 13:59 #264799

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markz wrote:

All those sources are regarding Tashmish with wife.
Were you trying to make a different point? Please explain where you're trying to go with these

Thank you G.C.!!

I'm referring to eslaasos who asked me to share the gamaros that are different then the gamara of masbio ru'uv marivo suvu, we were talking about tashmish, of course giving in to yetzer hora to do eveiros is not helpful to avodas h',
The rabeinu yona I quoted is calling tava yetzer hora (the maharal is saying there are 2 kinds of yetzer hora 1 is a angel the is the desires of the heart & only big tzadikim have the מלאך yetzer hora)
The rabeinu yona is also on the topic of tashmish with wife,

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Re: Hello friends 27 Sep 2015 14:28 #264801

Markz OFFLINE Platinum Boarder Posts: 8259 Karma: 428	Gettingcloser wrote: I'm referring to eslaasos who asked me to share the gamaros that are different then the gamara of masbio ru'uv marivo suveu You're making a mistake. Marivo saveu does not mean no tashmish at all
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Re: Hello friends 27 Sep 2015 14:46 #264802

AlexEliezer OFFLINE Platinum Boarder Posts: 1933 Karma: 55	eslaasos wrote: Which favorite subject would that be? sex

Re: Hello friends 27 Sep 2015 17:01 #264808

eslaasos Current streak: 16 days OFFLINE Platinum Boarder Posts: 954 Karma: 81	AlexEliezer wrote: eslaasos wrote: Which favorite subject would that be? sex So what's the mussar haskel?
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Re: Hello friends 27 Sep 2015 19:53 #264820

AlexEliezer OFFLINE Platinum Boarder Posts: 1933 Karma: 55	umm, uhh, hmm

Re: Hello friends 27 Sep 2015 20:12 #264822

Markz OFFLINE Platinum Boarder Posts: 8259 Karma: 428	Rabbi A Miller told about a woman (in slabodka?) that used to flirt with boys with Mussar Kidding aside, the Mussar Haskel AE was trying to convey is to cut shmoozing about lust to the minimum. Yet on this website there's definitely a different yardstick of what's open for discussion, and in my view it seemed like we weren't doing too bad G.Y.T. to all the truckers!
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Re: Hello friends 27 Sep 2015 22:46 #264827

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