cordnoy wrote on 29 May 2016 18:42:

he also refers to himself in the third person.

Mark also does

cordnoy wrote on 29 May 2016 18:42:


Cordnoy,

Hope you understood that I was using you as an example with the utmost respect of someone who's a role model even though he fell on the way to where he is- no disrespect.

I assure you Cordnoy wasn't offended. He didn't hear disrespect. He was sharing his situation that he has a very slippery deck on board

His confirmation to this may be short as his style eg he may just click thank you, so workingguy Keep On Impressive Trucking!!

The slippery deck last night was due to a sudden storm that appeared over the weekend. 

Did you not see it coming?

Or as you'd say in your old avatar message

Did you not see the storm brewing?

Nope.

inastruggle wrote on 29 May 2016 16:00:

I've been having my doubts about promoting the JHF section
I think its productive, but how many people gain real sobriety with it as a crutch? I believe a negligible percent

What would be if I quit posting on JHF theads, if I feel (think / imagine) that I provide enough humor in the 'non depressed people's' threads, when I don't know that I have ample time for JHF nowadays.

Im thinking aloud, but I'm serious too

I thought the JHF section can be a magnet to assist sobriety. Can someone seriously prove that to me?

I imagined people were easier to truck on gye with us if they see (smell) some humor on entry.
I am reconsidering

I'd like to hear your thoughts

Feel free to reply with humor, but that won't convince me...

markz wrote on 29 May 2016 23:57:


A few months ago the JHF had more posts than anything else on the forum and I started feeling like the point of GYE was being missed. At that point I would have answered that it definitely was a problem and was taking away from people posting for real on the forum.

I don't see it as that much of a problem now, but I definitely hear the question.

Never stopped me from getting serous,  missing the fun

IMHO Humor is a good thing!!

Communication is crucial as mentioned previously, and this is one of the vehicles, as has been for me for sure!!

But when there's an overload, the humor vehicle can be a detriment to Trucking for the typical member (although there can be exceptions)

Obsessive humor inhibits personal growth for most, and it could be that this is what is meant by
שחוק וקלות ראש מרגילין לערוה
It's not that humor necessarily leads one to lust, rather it blocks positive Trucking and thereby automatically allows lust to simmer and effect us

Those were my serious words for today!

Now back to hilarious trucking!!

Or

for Dov; keep on Biking!!



 

I agree with workingguy, if the fun parts of gye are the main thing then yatzah secharo b'hefsaido. There were times when I felt that was the case. Recently it hasn't been that way though imho.

I don't think it's fair to call the jhf section a crutch, it's a tool. At least as useful as some of the other ones promoted here. 

Part of the reason I left a while ago was because gye had become really boring and monotonous. It was all seriousness and no humor. It's a hard struggle (or surrender) and humor sweetens it.

If you don't have time then don't do it. Adrabbah, I think that at a certain point in recovery you start living life and stop having time to be here. It isn't supposed to be a big focus. Most of the guys with really long streaks aren't here anymore and that's a good thing. It would be terrible if in order to stay clean someone had to spend the rest of his life constantly posting on gye instead of spending time with his family.

In conclusion, I don't think you should boycott the jhf section, but spending less time here, and online in general is always a good thing.

Me no boycotting nothing, and not telling anyone else what to do

I personally had a tradition of posting JHF daily which I don't regret at all but I may cut down on that as I have done recently

 

yiraishamaim wrote on 10 Jun 2016 03:56:


Yes she feels I'm choosing GYE over attention for her, but also feels it's an escape to be on it for so many hours / week, as though its a replacement for other outlets

What would happen if I begin to cut down a bit?
Probably nothing much, and I may do that for the next 2 weeks, to see how I fare

KOT

We'll miss you but maybe it is indeed time for you to start graduating.

Most successful gyes start cutting down on gye time at a certain point.