You want to know when whats done the horse or the book, cuz ive started the book and its seems really boring so its gonna take me a LONG Time to read it. besides the fact i hate to read books

Cordnoy, our man S2makeIt has a point. I myself haven't begun der veiser book only because I feel I'm BH succeeding w/o it.

But someone that does want to progress, are there any substitute books that are less dry or more succinct out there? Or are there specific pages / chapters that can be skipped

markz wrote:


No

Try it and skip what you like, or don't try it at all.

I was once reading the white book and it got too triggering for me, so I put it down and paused the reading. Even though it is a book of recovering from sex addiction, it can still trigger me to act out. So I waited until I had a clearer mind. I have found the groisah buch to be really helpful though, and it's a good read, Harav Bill has a great writing style.

yea so White book, still Long, still Boring, still have Not Read!

Shlomo24 wrote:
Look, Shlomo is a pro so I think if you also have a groise boich that can help

I know of a guy that found Bava Basra too big and daunting
But he was determined to achieve

So he went to a book binder, sliced it in half, and took OHAAT

Strugglingtomakeit wrote:


Bravo to you!
I'm glad you found something that controls your addiction. do share please.

haven't found a complete success, but when i do it cuz ive been keeping very busy

Strugglingtomakeit wrote:

There's 2 long standing traditions in guard your eyes

1- if there's a will there's a way

2- do what works

It's disconcerting to hear negativity

We need positivity - please let us know what does work for you

Strugglingtomakeit wrote:

So read the GPS manual in my signature, it's only as long as the cover page of the white book

I love you, and only hope the best for you

I am currently in my longest streak, since I was in Israel. I am also currently extremely depressed, on top of that I got some potentially unsettling news. At this point I feel like just breaking my streak, just to feel a rush of serotonin, just to feel somewhat happy again even for a little while. Anything that would help. I am really struggling now. At times I just want to end everything, end all the feelings. It all hurts so much. I feel like I'm being pushed away, and hard, it hurts to think the last few weeks I've been trying to change my ways, and to feel like this, doesn't help.

I'm sorry to hear that.

This to shall pass.

Acting out will only make you feel worse right after.

How you feel is temporary.

Try sprinting to nowhere until you cant breathe anymore. You will very likely fill those receptors up just as well.
On the walk back pat yourself on the back.
What Watson said is just emes.
The split second hit of seratonin wont be worth the hours of self hate after compared to not doing it and knowing you got through it..
That seratonin will stay in your blood forever.
As for the unsettling news, as we have been saying here recently - real life is a lot tougher when you don't have the crutches to fall back on.
It should turn out to be for the best, which as we all know, is the only way Hashem works it.

Sorry to hear.

What you currently doing? Ie working, university, yeshiva? Do you feel fulfilled? Any goals worth setting?