ihadstringsbutnowimfree wrote on 24 Oct 2022 03:28:

While the ad might have been a bit hyperbolic to make a point about how foundational the GYE cause is...
GYE deserves a lot of credit for all the work they do. For many who are stuck it is their first resource. "You just need to to stop and think ...." as you said. For some GYE provides the wake up call.. for others it provides the information on the available solutions...

GYE might not be the "foundation" of your life, or my life at this stage. But I would posit that for someone who is struggling, it absolutely is...
And even if it is not the foundation, as the creative ad director might have perceived, it is still a unique and valuable resource.

Thank you GYE!

Hopeful2022 wrote on 24 Oct 2022 10:55:

Hi
Please let me know which post you're referring to and what's bothering you about it so we can try to help. 

MenachemGYE wrote on 24 Oct 2022 11:54:

I have seen it brought down that the Neshamot of the final generation prior to the coming of Moshiach, will be gilgulim of the Nesahmot that lived in the generation of the Mabul, so while yes it may not be unprecedented, however ever since then we probably haven't faced challenges to the same degree that we currently are.

ihadstringsbutnowimfree wrote on 24 Oct 2022 03:28:

Not sure what logic you are applying. Kedusha was always a foundation and it's under attack like never before because of modern technology. GYE is here to help that.


If it would be as simple as that, why did you need to use all the methods you quote below?

Convenient word salad, with the standard baseless accusations and name calling.

There is no "Frum World Headquarters" where all the black garbed bearded rabbis scheme together in a bunker. There aren't any collective decisions being made by a selected few who control our yeshivos, publications and websites. So who are you pointing your finger at?

The world has changed. For some, unfortunately, new technology is required to support their family. BH we now have some relatively kosher options. That's what the ads are for.


Goodbye. Hope you stick around if you have methods that worked, but especially if not.

                              Grant

@grant400 ur back?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yippe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What are the issues? I have found the moderators to be professional and caring. They have guidelines that seem to be quite flexible and have a strong interest in being inclusive and working things out. Maybe reach out to some of the old timers here to ask them to communicate on your behalf to the moderators.

Despite whatever criticism some may have of GYE, personally, I am indebted to them immensely. (And from my conversations with others, it appears many share that same feeling of deep gratitude.) No organization is perfect, but they are doing an awesome service for all of us, and continuously strive to better their techniques and range of services. Let's face it. There is a fire raging, and GYE is the lead team of courageous firefighters dealing with this awesome crisis. There is little time to sit and plan, because more nefashos are being singed with each passing hour. So they keep moving in, attacking from all angles. Could they do it better? Maybe, maybe not. Who cares? They are doing and doing, and the result is that they are accomplishing great things. I think they would rejoice if other organizations would compete with them, thus saving more people. 

ihadstringsbutnowimfree wrote on 24 Oct 2022 03:28:

I disagree. I think that "simply spend less time in front of a screen." Joking...

Thank you for sharing your insight and thoughts!

Hopeful & Mr Tzitzit strings

What is this thread?

“The Cheasy Method for quitting GYE”???

I’ve been around the block on gye - the mods don’t hold back threads unless there’s seriously triggering stuff or something like that.

Please “Return again
Return again
Return to the land of the living”

Hashem Help Me wrote on 26 Oct 2022 20:37:

This post from HHM defending GYE and giving credit where it is truly due to the worlds most selfless and incredible organisation, ought to receive 1000 "thank you's" not just 3!

I have no issue with the Mission of this site, it is sorely needed, and since it is free, they sure are not doing it for the money! The problem I have is I am sensing a trend among the users of this forum. They continue to say the same things repeatedly, and the answers are generally the same.

What I don't see is any critical thinking, thinking outside the box, new ideas, suggestions, or maybe a slight disagreement on a particular topic or idea. I am thinking (and I could be wrong) that anyone that may suggest something outside of the regular answers is getting muted and dismissed. I read the rules, and I know that you can't say certain things or bring up certain topics; I understand and agree totally. You have to have rules to keep things in order.

I, on the other hand, have experienced this bias at least twice. I will not go into the two glaring examples of this, as this post will also never be seen by anyone. I am only here to help myself and maybe help others, and having an open and honest discussion can only make things better for everyone. 

I feel that I could add to the conversation and have contributed to this forum and, therefore, maybe helped a few people along the way; I don't want to leave (obviously, since I am here writing this), but having each word or statement having to stay within a very narrow set of parameters is beyond frustrating and not helpful to my situation. 

One suggestion I could give is that if a comment is disallowed, a moderator should at least send a short response to the writer, telling them why it was disallowed. I know they have a lot to do, but if they have the time to disallow a comment, spend another 30 seconds telling the person why. Is that too much to ask? 

Hopeful2022 wrote on 27 Oct 2022 10:17:

I wasn't going to reply, but I can't just sit and say nothing because it may look like someone agrees.
I vehemently disagree with your statement that "GYE does not think out the box". Just take one look at gyewiki: wiki.guardyoureyes.com/Main_Page for a small glimpse of how much research into this area they have done. They offer a wide variety of services, have helped/help Jews on all parts of the spectrum & offer resources like 12 steps, smart recovery, chat, forums, partners, mentors, ebooks, etc etc. many of these resources are used in the secular world too as tools for recovery.
So unless you label the secular world as narrow minded and naïve, then I'm beginning to think perhaps it's you who does not think out the box.

In addition to the above, I have personally found GYE very receptive to any suggestions and encourage feedback to improve further. 
If your going to bring negative vibes to this platform the pls reconsider posting here.

I do hope that you find the right place that will provide you with the tools you need to break free,

Sincerely,
Excellence

Hopeful2022 wrote on 27 Oct 2022 10:17:

You've definitely piqued my curiosity Would definitely appreciate a PM with more deets though I understand your frustration.

I would love to explain what I said and have a dialogue, but I can't... I can't DM you, I have had that taken that privilege away from me.

I also was not going to reply, but felt that there is always a benefit in a dialogue. I challenge you to look into my past posts and see where I brought "negative vibes" to this forum. I can save you some time, as you will not find any.

If "negative vibes" is asking question about what I am reading on here, then maybe I am guilty of it. As far as reconsidering posting here, that will be my decision, not yours. I will not comment on your insult of being closed minded. You are entitled to your opinion, even when I disagree. Thank you for forwarding my point.

I simply felt that at the very least I should have been given the respect of a reply to the posting and telling me what rule I broke or why they felt it was no fit for publication. Maybe I am wrong and am more then willing to admit and accept it.

I know that I am older than many of the people on here and living in a non-religious area. I am not as easily swayed and influenced as some younger people without the years of living in this world may be. I like to ask questions, I like to discuss differing viewpoints, and in this current trouble world that is neck deep in tribalism, I know that I am in the minority.

I see. I thought it was just chat and not Private Messaging. Unfortunately I don't have a secure way to communicate outside of this website.