Our Israeli Nikkium Klan
It has a thread somewhere the name says it all

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MayanHamisgaber wrote on 23 Feb 2018 00:59:

Reminds me of a song



Here an oink there an oink. 
Old McDonald says "Make my farm great again"

Markz wrote on 23 Feb 2018 02:00:

Drain the pigsty

HakolMilimala wrote on 22 Feb 2018 14:32:

This is very pertinent, thank you for sharing yet another nugget of wisdom. I do think a network of people would be helpful. I'm under the (possibly wrong) impression that joining SA is an "easy" way to build a network, because it already exists. You just drop in, and boom, you're connected to a network of like-minded people. So in that sense, SA sounds great. But if SA as a program for recovery is NOT what I need, than that whole route is off the table and I need to build the network of people from scratch. It also doesn't help that I'm in an out-of-town community.

Start by texting/calling the good fellows here and you will see how quickly things develop 
you might be surprised 
(don't worry about how to start this just express an interest and they will let you know how to contact them)

good luck 

MayanHamisgaber wrote on 23 Feb 2018 03:28:

Yes that's exactly what I did! BH I'm happy to report that I'm building what I hope will be a solid network. Just in the last week or two I've progressed from texting/chatting to voice calls to (gasp) actually meeting someone in-person and talking openly about my struggles face-to-face for the first time in my life. It feels surreal.

If you don't remember how resistant I was to the whole talking to other people thing, just go back a few pages and remind yourself 

here a vid that explains it well about being connected people how it helps SA and other addictions   gye.vids.io/videos/7c9bd1be1915eac5f4/04-everything-we-think-we-know-about-addiction-is-wrong

danann@ wrote on 23 Feb 2018 04:54:

thats a great video, thanks for posting it

Thanks alot to Lifebound for his articulate expression of what many of us feel...
I would suggest that perhaps this is the meaning of Chazal's instruction וקנה לך חבר...
Although i think that opening up to "real-life" friends might be more effective then anonymous ones...

OivedElokim wrote on 25 Feb 2018 03:58:

You're welcome I hope it was helpful. I agree with you 100%. Opening up to friends here on GYE is made way easier with the knowledge that they share your struggles, and with the element of anonymity. Much harder to develop in-person friendships with that level of connection.

especially experienced members of gye to talk over the phone or texting them, and eventually meeting them i think is best, and make them your "real life" friends to open up to, because not always (which is most cases i think) your real life friends not from gye are equipped and understanding of are situation.  hazlacha on the path hashem puts you on:) 

Been a while since my last post, I think it's time for an update

The good:
- I'm 23 days clean. That's definitely a record.
- After days and days of trying to filter my rooted/custom-ROM-flashed phone, I gave up. The filters I tried were either useless because of root, or wouldn't even install. (rooting is basically the process of getting "admin" access to your phone's kishkes. So you have full control and can modify stuff at the system level.) The only option was to wipe it, unroot it, and reinstall the factory settings. Took a few hours but I just did it tonight and now I've got Netspark up and running on my phone. Still gotta figure out how it all works but so far it seems solid.

The not-so-good:
- I'm happy to be 23 days clean but it's getting harder, not easier. In the beginning it was simple to just say no and push it off. Now I've got 3 weeks of accumulated urges bottled up. I can't help but feel the whole 90 days thing is a glorified delay tactic...somethings gonna give way sooner or later. The lust is still alive and well. I found this post in the Dov Quotes thread that describes the feeling exactly:


...so that's worrying. I haven't felt calm and serene at all. I don't feel like I'm doing anything to address the underlying issue, whatever that is.

Keep it up,there is no Navi who could tell usYOUR GONNA FALL,your building up your muscles every day ,hour, minute etc.your lust is thrashing in death throes,your accomplishing ALOT !and a lot of us are watching you and getting hope that we too can get off the ground ,hatzlacha!

The "pressure" although intense, is imagined. It took me a long time to realize this. It comes from the false belief that i am going to eventually have to masturbate anyway. Why "fight" if anyways you are eventually going to lose? But in truth there is no actual physical NEED to ejaculate. Once a person REALLY believes that, the pressure diminishes tremendously. Secondly, 23 days is in the middle of when withdrawal hits. Your body/subconscious crave the "drug". Replace it with something kosher and healthy. For me, that was exercise. You owe it to yourself to either exercise or find some other release to get you over the next few days. You, as many before you have done, can do it with serenity. Although it is true that it is very helpful to address underlying issues, that is a process which takes time and work. Dont use the fact that "there are underlying issues that need to be resolved" as the excuse to act out. Of course start working on that, but in the meantime until you do, you most definitely can stay clean with Hashem at your side. May Hashem give you hatzlocha in both endeavors.