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Re: Falling frequency growed the last weeks... 11 Aug 2017 09:21 #318650

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whats this partnership thing? how it works? can this help? how can i find a partner?

Re: Falling frequency growed the last weeks... 11 Aug 2017 12:45 #318655

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David26fr wrote on 10 Aug 2017 22:58:

botty wrote on 10 Aug 2017 20:55:
for some1 who falls like once 2-3 weeks without bad vidoes, will it be good?


Taphsic can surely help in such a case of addiction like yours, I think.

I think you can start with a Taphsic vow for a little time and little knas, to see how it works with you.
It would be wise to adjust it by little steps after, making it more difficult if needed. Little steps.
Adding 500 $ knas in a Taphsic suddenly, or adding 6 months to his duration suddenly, are pure stupidity.

Also, I advice to keep original GYE's version.  If you want to customize it, be sure about your modification and think it twice before the vow, and start to test it for a little period of time.

Be patient : it could take months before you find "your" good version. And your version is only adapted to your story, and could be a nightmare for another addict

Side effect : a succesful Taphsic can bring you to stop to work on the program, so you have to be careful on this point. This happened to me and it lead me to falls.

According to what you replied this morning, which I assumed would be coming, this post I re-quoted here which almost mentions nothing about other recovery steps has no basis (your word "program" can refer to Filters, as you said earlier)

How can you then assume it'll help for 6 months for someone else?
Please keep sharing what works for you (share it with others in recovery - not your wife please)

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Re: Falling frequency growed the last weeks... 11 Aug 2017 15:26 #318661

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This post was just an answer to Botty that asked "what about a Tapshic vow" in HIS case.
In this post, I was sharing how I managed to get a working Tapshic, and what mistakes I have done about it, and how to avoid them. That's all.
The previous post of yesterday morning was enough clear for me that SA program is a mandatory with Tapshic.. If you think that I made a mistake to don't repeat it clearly in my response to him, no problem.

But I don't see anywhere that I assume Tapshic will help anyone for 6 months without anything  else ?! I said that making a Tapshic for suddenly 6 months is "a stupidity"...

I shared my program of last year if it can help some people : guardyoureyes.com/forum/1-Break-Free/318391-Falling-just-after-one-year-clean#318524

Please don't forget that my english isn't perfect, I can do mistakes.
Be kind please

Re: Falling frequency growed the last weeks... 11 Aug 2017 15:28 #318662

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botty wrote on 11 Aug 2017 09:21:
whats this partnership thing? how it works? can this help? how can i find a partner?

Take a look here : guardyoureyes.com/tools/partner-program

Re: Falling frequency growed the last weeks... 13 Aug 2017 23:11 #318733

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But I think, on a person with a low level addiction, Tapshic is a good help. A good help only if it is used with others tools of SA/GYE : 12 steps, live meeting, forum, partnership, even therapy...

The 12 Steps of S.A. is not another technique to control the addiction.
the 12 steps are a group of principles, that when practiced as a way of life, lets a power greater than one's self to enter and expel the obsession to lust.
WWhen I gave up my right to entertain lust, and surrender the temptation to my HP - asking Him to take it from me, I don't fight it - and I surrender all fear, resentments and self centred ambitions,  and try to be of maximum service to others - G-D comes in arrived the obsession.
have you followed the steps precisely as described in the Big Book?
It worked for me and I'll be glad to guide you.
My experience may be different to yours, but they're both correct
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Re: Falling frequency growed the last weeks... 14 Aug 2017 19:32 #318776

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Do you know that there is a Hebrew forum too? They have really good sobriety there, perhaps you would feel more comfortable there as you are Israeli. 

Therapy could help but most of the time they only deal with underlying issues and not lust so i wouldnt suggest only therapy. 

Tapsic hasnt worked for me and thats all about negative sobriety (not lusting) and most of us have more issues than just lust. Also for someone that hasnt been able to stop on their willpower, this probably wont work as this is just an extra motivation (ie more will power). I couldnt stop on my own even if i had a knass or a reward in place

For me, I am in SA and thank God, is seems to be the right fit for me. In my experience SA targets the issues that I need both lust and character defects, provides friendship and a loving, caring God. And yes, it has helped my yidishkeit. 
I am happy to speak on the phone. Please email me at dms1234ongye@gmail.com

My name is Daniel, I go to face to face meetings and I work the 12 steps with a sponsor. 
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