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Re: Yeshiva Bochur needs chizuk and help 12 Apr 2015 13:07 #252081

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i justr saw this on GYE.
take a look i have to pray now.

The Sefer V'Ha'er Eineinu quotes Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach, ZTs"l thus:

"Even if one only has instances of stumbling, without any successes whatsoever [in his struggle to break from of his lusts]; but he at least has the will and desire to become metukan in his shmiras einayim (i.e. to correct his erstwhile heinous passion for immodest gazing)," says Rav Shlomo Zalman: "he should rejoice with tremendous happiness that he is infused with this holy, pure desire, and he should remember that every time that his soul awakens with this ambition, the creates a profound nachas ruach for the Kadosh Baruch Hu."

I've found that it's that one victory that can lead to the next. Mitzvah goreres mitzvah. For me, when I am matzliach in shmiras einayim, and resist the temptation to indulge in my passions and taavos, that is a perfect time to ask for an extra jolt of siyatta d'shmaya to continue to succeed. [Like mamisch right now, as we are reading and thinking about this, and not indulging in our taavos].

So even if I fail once in a while, and lose the impetus to resist, and stam give in to my taavos, I know that I at least have this once success from before, plus this bakasha, plus the charata of a failure -- three separate categories of mitzvah in overcoming and defeating taavah.

(see further, V'Ha'er Eineinu, p. 75-76)

Re: Yeshiva Bochur needs chizuk and help 12 Apr 2015 13:09 #252082

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Listen, Hashem loves you even when you're in this rut because he knows you're trying to get out. Read those chizuk emails, and keep trying. You can do it!

Re: Yeshiva Bochur needs chizuk and help 12 Apr 2015 14:17 #252088

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abieham wrote:
im sorry to tell everyone i fell motzei shabbos/chag. it started at night and as soon as i woke up i went to my brothers half filtered computer and fell before i did anything. i feel like a real loser and especially because i feel so regular after. i feel as if i have no remorse. now i have to pray in front of the King by myself and ask for kindness. Do i really deserve it?
Today before i said modeh ani i thought which site can i go on that wouldnt be blocked. i went to the bathroom and didnt say asher yatzar before i got my next fix. And this is the same boy who for 7 months was clean and growing. I feel like a loser. I know that i dont aspire to be like this but what am i doing to stop. i didnt read anything GYE for a while. im bringing myself down because i ignored this disease. thats the thing with this addiction. it doesnt go away by itself you have to go to a "doctor." I guess the reason i forget that detail is because its only in the mind and not the body. so guys im posting now. i need help. please give me some hizuk.i want to be better i want to live a normal life.


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Re: Yeshiva Bochur needs chizuk and help 12 Apr 2015 20:17 #252134

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abieham wrote:
im sorry to tell everyone i fell motzei shabbos/chag. it started at night and as soon as i woke up i went to my brothers half filtered computer and fell before i did anything. i feel like a real loser and especially because i feel so regular after. i feel as if i have no remorse. now i have to pray in front of the King by myself and ask for kindness. Do i really deserve it?
Today before i said modeh ani i thought which site can i go on that wouldnt be blocked. i went to the bathroom and didnt say asher yatzar before i got my next fix. And this is the same boy who for 7 months was clean and growing. I feel like a loser. I know that i dont aspire to be like this but what am i doing to stop. i didnt read anything GYE for a while. im bringing myself down because i ignored this disease. thats the thing with this addiction. it doesnt go away by itself you have to go to a "doctor." I guess the reason i forget that detail is because its only in the mind and not the body. so guys im posting now. i need help. please give me some hizuk.i want to be better i want to live a normal life.


If it is a disease that you have and it is showing its symptoms and you "had a fall". It is either that you forgot to take your antibiotics or you took the wrong dose or it is another medicine that you need to take. you have enough in your hands with this sickness , i dont see why you have to berate yourself for that. Just TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. Hatzlacha .

Re: Yeshiva Bochur needs chizuk and help 13 Apr 2015 18:32 #252194

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guys i fell again. i dont know what to do. i feel numb and nonchalant of what happened,what does that mean. im trying to gnot get down on myself but i feel bad. what does this mean?:
"If it is a disease that you have and it is showing its symptoms and you "had a fall". It is either that you forgot to take your antibiotics or you took the wrong dose or it is another medicine that you need to take. you have enough in your hands with this sickness , i dont see why you have to berate yourself for that. Just TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. Hatzlacha .

Re: Yeshiva Bochur needs chizuk and help 13 Apr 2015 18:41 #252195

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Sorry to hear.
Feelin' down is never good, but let's see how we can get back on da truck.

Have you tried one of the phone conferences?
have you read any of the handbooks on this site?
Have you spoken to anyone about this issue?

b'hatzlachah
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Re: Yeshiva Bochur needs chizuk and help 13 Apr 2015 21:57 #252213

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i prayed to hashem but honestly i dont know what to say. i said that im sorry and i know that HE knows that i dont want to be this way, and i have a whole different path for my life. i said that i felt compelled to fail, and i was taken over by my addiction. i asked for help.

Re: Yeshiva Bochur needs chizuk and help 13 Apr 2015 22:00 #252214

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Prayin' is always good, but we need a plan of sorts.

Can I assume that the answer to all three of my questions was "no"?
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Re: Yeshiva Bochur needs chizuk and help 13 Apr 2015 22:55 #252220

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abieham wrote:
guys i fell again. i dont know what to do. i feel numb and nonchalant of what happened,what does that mean. im trying to gnot get down on myself but i feel bad. what does this mean?:
"If it is a disease that you have and it is showing its symptoms and you "had a fall". It is either that you forgot to take your antibiotics or you took the wrong dose or it is another medicine that you need to take. you have enough in your hands with this sickness , i dont see why you have to berate yourself for that. Just TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. Hatzlacha .


Ok what it means is that our addiction is a type of disease. So dont go down on yourself as you said. If you fell it means that there are some steps that you have to take and you havent yet done that. As Cordnoy says what is your plan of action ? And what tools are working\not working for you . You are powerless over your falls but you are definitely not action-less. There is a plenty for you to do to help yourself. Start from somewhere , reading the gye handbook and move upwards in your journey to recovery. Hatzlacha !

Re: Yeshiva Bochur needs chizuk and help 19 Apr 2015 23:18 #252622

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ok guys im getting ready to leave for the airport, pray i get there safely and return safely and am able to watch myself from falling. i took the gye handbook with me and plan on reading it. i need your help.

Re: Yeshiva Bochur needs chizuk and help 20 Apr 2015 02:43 #252626

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Good Move - Read the handbook.

Of course acting out in this filthy,self-destructive way is the worst.
Know that as bad as it is and as hopeless as it appears there is real hope to live a healthy productive life without acting out.
Countless others have achieved this. However, you must really WANT TO CHANGE BADLY.
Stay connected, listen to the advice here and before you know it you will be welcoming others and giving them words of support.

Keep Shtark!

Re: Yeshiva Bochur needs chizuk and help 03 Aug 2015 19:30 #260743

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Hi everyone i had a great zman bh. but i again had a bad ben hazmanim. i feel already twice since im home only a week. It feels so bad. I dont know what to do. i pray to hashem to save me. The weird part is is that in the streets bh i am so careful with watching my eyes, but when im home i cant stay away from the hirhurim and i fall. I need some advice please.

Re: Yeshiva Bochur needs chizuk and help 03 Aug 2015 20:10 #260750

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How to entertain a thought ? That's where surrender comes in.
These thoughts are precious to us. They are our precious drug--lust.
But we can surrender the thoughts and accompanying lust to Hashem.
How ? By saying it :
Ribono Shel Olam, I am powerless over lust and my life has become unmanageable.
Only You can restore me to sanity.
I turn my life and my lust over to Your care and ask You
to please heal me from this illness of lust. Take my lust.
I don't want to lust.
I only want You and a relationship with You, Your Torah, and an appropriate , loving,
giving relationship with my eishes chayil.
Please take my lust.

Thought came back ? Say it again and again. Mean it.

Thanks AlexEliezer i printed this and started saying it. It's very helpful for me.

Re: Yeshiva Bochur needs chizuk and help 21 Apr 2016 19:03 #285616

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the problem is that i dont think before i act on my impulse for lust. what can i do about that.

Re: Yeshiva Bochur needs chizuk and help 21 Apr 2016 19:10 #285617

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abieham wrote on 21 Apr 2016 19:03:
the problem is that i dont think before i act on my impulse for lust. what can i do about that.

Welcome back Abie, and it's good you jumped on without sinking further

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