“Rarely have we seen a person fail…” except for the 95% who fail annually.

First, it's an addiction.
Then, it's a disease.
Then, it's not an actual disease, but rather a spiritual disease.

Which one is it? Where's the evidence? What even is a "spiritual" disease?

Claptrap. Malarky. Shtuyot.

It's just cult jibber-jabber.

duck_dopp wrote on 28 Mar 2022 02:05:

My drug of choice is porn. 

Sounds like yours is Russian Vodka, seriously. 
What’s your point?

There are many guys that benefit immensely from SA. Many of them tried everything else, to no avail. Please do not demoralize them. Let them be proud of their sacrifice - it is time consuming and hard work and a real pressure - especially if the wife does not know about it. Give them chizuk buddy.

Hashem Help Me wrote on 28 Mar 2022 11:36:

Thank you. My assumption is that folks on GYE have brains and intelligence; let them figure things out with the help of others. There are all kinds of help out there, and statin' contrarian opinions are also part of that. It's important to hear both sides of the story. Why is it demoralizin'?

cordnoy wrote on 28 Mar 2022 11:41:

Cordnoy, you're making a great point. I think what HHM meant was that there's a way to calmly and clearly take the other side, as opposed to writing sarcastic comments or making fun of the system (or making fun of the poster). I feel like the first way leads to productive discussion, while sarcasm just leads to a fight. (Though to be honest, it can be quite funny.) Perhaps that's what HHM meant.

duck_dopp wrote on 28 Mar 2022 02:05:

Buddy, what's hurting you today? 
Seems that you don't really have questions just terutzim... 

SA is not perfect, that is for sure, but what is for sure is that Hashem put some serious Siyata dishmaya into this program because it works. 62 days sober without hardly thinking!