Before I join the soup here:

Is this entire discussion mainly drushos l'hagdil Torah like discussing ben sorer umoreh (which may be a great mitzvah)...anybody willing to openly admit if this is their interest here, please?

...or is there anybody here who will come forward and admit that they are actually trying to better apply these ideas to work with an addict/themselves?

Thanks for your openness and honesty, either way.

Dov wrote on 27 Jun 2019 21:42:

I certainly do not belong to the former; perhaps, by some mistake, I can be included in the latter.

Dov wrote on 27 Jun 2019 21:42:

I like knaidle, lokshen and porogen.
But i love Dov

Dov wrote on 27 Jun 2019 21:42:


#1. That’s not my interest. 
#2. No I’m not actively working on myself. I’m in a good place these past weeks, but not fully. Unmanageable life is what I feel often almost at the brink of, although BH generally I’m able to keep the distance.

People are different. 
Some are addicts some aren’t but there’s a broad line in between. 

Before you join the soup, remember that there’s a whole variety of soup being offered. Chicken soup, vegetable soup etc etc

Dov wrote on 27 Jun 2019 21:42:

#1 It is my interest, I do like a good discussion, however I do prefer if... (See number 2)

#2 The answer/explanation will not just be theoretical in nature ( this is an addict, this is not an addict...) But rather of practical ideas and thoughts what to do if one is one or other.