Bobcohen wrote on 10 Oct 2016 13:59:
Thanks ppl for support.
Its aight. Altho finding it annoying that so much info everywhere at once... This seems more like for more extreme cases. I could be wrong. What you think?
Just download the GYE Handbook and start with that, one page at a time!
The biggest chochmah of this place is davka that it's not only for extreme cases. The handbook was laid out with great thought, starting with the simplest tools that really EVERYONE should have, and it moves GRADUALLY to stronger measures. It's sort of like, "you tried tool 1 and it wasn't enough, okay, so move on to tool 2 and see if that helps." And you can basically stop at whatever level is right for you.
That's what got me into recovery. I started off getting the chizzuk E-mails, but I kept acting out (for some people they get a little chizzuk and that's all they need). So then I got active in the forum (I'm on a second gilgul here now, but a few years ago, under a different name, I was very active here). For some people, that's enough, but I still kept acting out, so then I joined the anonymous phone conferences. That really helped--I had months at a time with clean streaks instead of just a few days or weeks. But I still kept acting out, so I joined face-to-face 12-step meetings. I've had a few falls with this, but they have been a year or two apart, and I think it was at times when I was easing up on my recovery efforts, or undergoing extreme difficulties in my life (it used to be that the slightest discomfort would send me running to act out). So I think I'm at the right level now, as long as I take it seriously. Baruch Hashem, I am not anywhere near needing those extreme tools at the back of the GYE handbook, which would mean to check myself into a mental treatment center or to chemically castrate myself for the sake of recovery.
Hatzlacha,
NL354