again, beautiful.

I'm just doing my part. I need to tell you it sounds like hell. You need to realise it's all for the good.

My chavrusa just lost his kid at 6 months' pregnancy. This following a previous miscarriage as well. And this guy is an actual illui, never stops learning, such a nice guy, constantly working on himself (we learn mussar together, discuss our lives).

He told me the worst thing someone said to him is "Hashem does everything for the good!"
It's true, but it's only his cheshbon, not anyone else's. He told me the best comment he got was from one of his rabbeim in Israel,

"OY, MAN, THAT SUCKS!!!"

I've heard the idea quoted often. Another's gashmiyus is your ruchniyus.

Rav Twerski brings a story. A rav going around for yeshiva donations, the donors say, "Doesn't the Mishna say, bread and salt, and water? Why so lavish?"
He responds, "It also says, etz chayim hi l'machazikim ba. From the donors' perspective, we must give all we can. From the learners' perspectives, they must know to subsist and not indulge."

Hi bb0212
I'm feeling your pain going through hardship.. I had my struggle as well..  Therapy  could help you and give your the strength.....
but one think you should know H' is there all the time & You're Not a failure.. Just do your best and H' will help u... H' loves every little effort  that we do....!!

Ready2work wrote on 19 Feb 2017 22:33:

TY. I've been to therapy for other, more pressing matters & bh I got tremendous help. However, I had to leave both the personal therapy & the group therapy that I was in, to keep my sanity and my job. There's not enough time in my life right now for therapy & I'm doing OK without it. Ty again for your support!

bb0212 wrote on 19 Feb 2017 23:15:

You sounded very down this week
(sure you're ok without it l?)

You wrote on the forum "Why did Gd create women"
Random question on a random thread gets a random answer that I wrote earlier this week

But then I saw on the Chat that you meant something TOTALLY different
And then I decided to check your thread, from post #1

And now you deserve a very different reply

I really feel for you brother - sounds like you're going thru hell
Someone once asked on the forum "where is it?"

I think sometimes the here and now can feel like it.

btw, I wish people would keep all their personal posts not on the chat or mini community pages, rather on their personal thread

THIS ENTIRE FORUM IS A GROUP FORUM, regardless of community, ethnicity, insanity... and we will support each other here, thru thick and thin

BB I wish you only the best, cos your situation is tough, yet you're holding strong