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Poll: Indulgence Chasin' with an OU by: EsLaasos

minimized other pleasures 3 18.8%
lust dissipated, replaced 8 50%
helped across the board 3 18.8%
have an opinion on this to share 2 12.5%
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TOPIC: Chasin', Pleasurin', Minimizin' by: EsLaasos 9329 Views

Re: Chasin', Pleasurin', Minimizin' by: EsLaasos 09 Mar 2016 06:29 #280774

This is a very interesting discussion. 
During the last few years in the Yomim Noraim I've been listening to a fantastic shiur given by R' Yaakov Weinberg ZT"L (Former Rosh Yeshiva of Ner Yisroel in Baltimore) where he discusses the concept of "Asei Retzono Kirtzoncho" and he explains that true acceptance of Malchus Shomayim is not merely through obedience to Hashem's commandments, but rather by "identifying" with the ratzon Hashem and making it our own. 
As an excersise to get closer to this level he suggested the listeners be mekabel on themselves to abstain from one gashmiyus pleasure in order to get ourselves used to the idea of not living life in a self-centered type of way where we do things just because of our desire. 
I've use this idea and I was mekabel 2 things during the last 2 years to abstain which are both food related. The first year I decided I won't drink Pepsi with supper during the week. This has a double benefit as Pepsi is not very healthy and this way I was both cutting down on unhealthy food and flexing my self-control muscles. 
To be honest, I don't believe this helped at all with the porn viewing but nevertheless I think it was a good move in and of itself. And it doesn't feel like much of a struggle. Once I ruled it out then it just wasn't part of my menu anymore. 
Feel free to email me at BenTorah.BaalHabayis@gmail.com

1 day may be too long for me, but I take it OWAAT = One wave at a time, cause the lust comes and goes like a wave which rises and crashes.

Re: Chasin', Pleasurin', Minimizin' by: EsLaasos 09 Mar 2016 16:53 #280832

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One major thing that I have learnt from my sponsor is to take care of myself and to self-love. Making healthy choices is one example for me, it also means that I treat myself from time to time, so I might have soda now and then, or if there's no other drink available.
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Re: Chasin', Pleasurin', Minimizin' by: EsLaasos 21 Jun 2016 16:54 #290475

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I changed my vote, cos I consider youtubing 'pleasure' which gye has helped me minimize

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I know this is a week early, but let's get the ball rolling

‎כל מחמצת לא תאכלו
Meaning: Do not eat rainbow cake on Passover
Inaccurate

‎ולא תתורו אחרי לבבכם ואחרי עיניכם
Meaning: Do not lust after women
Inaccurate

What is more accurate?

‎כל מחמצת לא תאכלו
Do not eat any form of leaven on Passover

‎ולא תתורו אחרי לבבכם ואחרי עיניכם
Do not "indulge" in all physical pleasures (see rambam, chinuch etc)

That is the point of this thread I think

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