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Re: Starting up 16 Nov 2015 03:56 #268694

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That really sums up my feelings about lust. Thank you.

Regarding what Markz said, I don't really know why I'm feeling like I do. I channel it at yeshiva but I can't pinpoint my issues. That's part of a very frustrating issue that I have been struggling with for a long time.
Let Hashem Do His Job!

We need to jump off the conveyor belt of life and walk on our own.

You cannot make yourself feel something you do not feel, but you can make yourself do right in spite of your feelings.

Life begins at the end of your comfort zone.

Re: Starting up 01 Jan 2016 20:35 #273119

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I have completely fallen back to my old ways. I have no control and I don't really feel that I care anymore. I have no access to GYE which makes things much worse. I am slipping lower and lower in lust and yeshiva. I am much more depressed and anxious. I am much more agitated and cynical. I can't stand being around people. I don't see an end in sight.
Let Hashem Do His Job!

We need to jump off the conveyor belt of life and walk on our own.

You cannot make yourself feel something you do not feel, but you can make yourself do right in spite of your feelings.

Life begins at the end of your comfort zone.

Re: Starting up 01 Jan 2016 20:55 #273121

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eslaasos wrote:
I just want to say that in mainstream yeshivos there are indeed people a bochur can talk to about these inyonim. Despite having that, I also slept in a lot. Everyone has their own path to travel...

For me it was the mashgiach. As a policy this was not a topic that was discussed openly and there was no sign hung up saying that appointments to discuss inyonei kedusha can be made between 4 and 6 pm. It was scary the first time I broached the topic (I was 15 or 16) but I'm glad I did. The response was overwhelmingly positive. There was no reproach, no disparagement. As far as I recall he said he was so happy I had brought up the topic so that he could help me with it.

There is a wonderful series of Shiurim on GYE called Dear Bochur where he says that in one yeshiva, one of the hanhalah set aside one week to discuss it in public and announce that he was available for anyone who was struggling (is there anyone who isn't?). I never saw that myself.

Shlomo24 wrote:
I went to a decently yeshivish yeshiva and the one rebbi who i thought was way too yeshivish to know of such things was the rebbi who was cool about porn and masturbation. i didn't shock him.
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Re: Starting up 03 Jan 2016 00:23 #273141

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I am just scared that he's not the right one. It's a really small yeshiva too.
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You cannot make yourself feel something you do not feel, but you can make yourself do right in spite of your feelings.

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Re: Starting up 03 Jan 2016 00:28 #273143

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abd297 wrote:
I have completely fallen back to my old ways. I have no control and I don't really feel that I care anymore. I have no access to GYE which makes things much worse. I am slipping lower and lower in lust and yeshiva. I am much more depressed and anxious. I am much more agitated and cynical. I can't stand being around people. I don't see an end in sight.
I'm only gonna say what I'd do - I'm not advising anything

הבטול מביא לידי שעמום והשעמום מביא לידי חטא

Is your problem חטא, or ביטול?

If it's ביטול, I'd find a different Yeshiva today, and life will begin to shine
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Re: Starting up 03 Jan 2016 04:11 #273156

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I think that I have done enough running trying to get to an unrealistic perfection. I had reason to run but I missed a lot of main points. No matter where I am I personally will never change unless I actively pursue change. It doesn't mean I have to stay in a bad situation but I can't lose sight of the core issues. I ran from my previous yeshiva after 3 years. Whatever the physical issues were, I had to remove myself. Obviously my own personal issues didn't go away now that I'm in a new place for a year and a half.
I don't think I have had the opportunity to change. I can't do it alone. That's how I am now. Not really going anywhere.
Let Hashem Do His Job!

We need to jump off the conveyor belt of life and walk on our own.

You cannot make yourself feel something you do not feel, but you can make yourself do right in spite of your feelings.

Life begins at the end of your comfort zone.

Re: Starting up 05 Jan 2016 06:03 #273366

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Just start loving yourself again. Accept yourself. Then move forward.

Re: Starting up 01 Apr 2016 15:26 #283200

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Hello everyone, I am back.

After really struggling and not fighting for a good few months I have been having a new invigoration towards my recovery. I have been in touch with GYE on the phone, made a double fenced shevua for the 1st time, just got back on the 90 day chart, and am seriously working on finally opening up to my rebbi. 

I think I am feeling stronger about this now because I saw how low things can actually go. Leaving Seder to masturbate or feeling depressed so stay in bed all day are just a peak into the state I am trying to get out of. 

Well, I hope this is new and lasting beginning. Hope to e in touch much more often. I really missed this great community. 
Let Hashem Do His Job!

We need to jump off the conveyor belt of life and walk on our own.

You cannot make yourself feel something you do not feel, but you can make yourself do right in spite of your feelings.

Life begins at the end of your comfort zone.

Re: Starting up 01 Apr 2016 20:50 #283247

Welcome back and please keep in touch! I hope you're new strategy really makes a difference! 
Feel free to email me at BenTorah.BaalHabayis@gmail.com

1 day may be too long for me, but I take it OWAAT = One wave at a time, cause the lust comes and goes like a wave which rises and crashes.

Re: Starting up 01 Apr 2016 21:02 #283248

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Welcome back
Just my 15cents if you are serious about opening up to your rebbe then maybe make that knas that if you fall you have to tell your rebbe that way either it works as a deterrent or you are forced to tell your rebbi its a win-win this is what got me to open up to my mashgiach and I used it as a heavy knas 
Soberity is a journey NOT a destination 
 
Last Edit: 01 Apr 2016 21:34 by Aryeh821.

Re: Starting up 03 Apr 2016 01:27 #283268

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Thanks Aryeh. I'll see how things progress with my rebbi. I plan on speaking to an old school counselor, who I opened up to earlier this year, about opening up to my rebbi. 
 
Let Hashem Do His Job!

We need to jump off the conveyor belt of life and walk on our own.

You cannot make yourself feel something you do not feel, but you can make yourself do right in spite of your feelings.

Life begins at the end of your comfort zone.

Re: Starting up 03 Apr 2016 01:29 #283269

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abd297 wrote:
Thanks Aryeh. I'll see how things progress with my rebbi. I plan on speaking to an old school counselor, who I opened up to earlier this year, about opening up to my rebbi.  

B'hatzlacha let us know how it goes 
Soberity is a journey NOT a destination 
 

Re: Starting up 03 Apr 2016 02:49 #283282

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Hatzlacha! We are here for you. It is so so hard but also so so worth it.

Re: Starting up 08 Apr 2016 17:47 #284046

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Hi again. I've been doing well since I last posted. I took my 2nd taphsic shvuah the other day and it has really been working out for me. I still need to work on the emotional parts of this addiction but it definitely helps on a day to day basis by not allowing me to fall. 
I have still been pretty lonely and depressed though. 
Let Hashem Do His Job!

We need to jump off the conveyor belt of life and walk on our own.

You cannot make yourself feel something you do not feel, but you can make yourself do right in spite of your feelings.

Life begins at the end of your comfort zone.

Re: Starting up 08 Apr 2016 18:16 #284048

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Head over to the depressed persons chill spot 
don't fell lonely We are here for you
Soberity is a journey NOT a destination 
 
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