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Is SA (Sexaholics Anonymous) Kosher? 22 Apr 2020 16:48 #348627

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I attended a SA phone conference for the first time in my life and at the end of the call, the attendees started saying what I believe was a Christian prayer. How can Jews attend SA meetings if the attendees pray together at the end?
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Re: Is SA (Sexaholics Anonymous) Kosher? 22 Apr 2020 18:29 #348632

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The book "God of Our Understanding: Jewish Spirituality and Recovery from Addiction" by Rabbi Shais Taub might be helpful here

Re: Is SA (Sexaholics Anonymous) Kosher? 22 Apr 2020 19:57 #348636

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danielks wrote on 22 Apr 2020 16:48:
I attended a SA phone conference for the first time in my life and at the end of the call, the attendees started saying what I believe was a Christian prayer. How can Jews attend SA meetings if the attendees pray together at the end?

Well, there’s always the option of clicking the backspace button and going back to what dov here calls - Worshipping Naked "Shiksas"
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Re: Is SA (Sexaholics Anonymous) Kosher? 22 Apr 2020 20:42 #348640

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I don't see how that answers my question...

Re: Is SA (Sexaholics Anonymous) Kosher? 22 Apr 2020 21:28 #348642

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You asked how come Jews can go to SA where you encountered worship. As a Jew I’m answering with a question - So is it any better than not going to SA and staying in what Dov calls worship.

But to answer your question, is it necessary for you to be there for the prayer section at the end?
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Re: Is SA (Sexaholics Anonymous) Kosher? 23 Apr 2020 02:48 #348662

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It would seem to me that it depends on the content of the prayer. I'm not familiar with it but do they mention the name of an avodah Zarah? If they simply say something along the lines of Heavenly Father it would seem you could have in mind that you're directing your tefilah to Hashem and I don't see that it would be a problem. 

On the other hand I would recommend reflecting on where your concern is coming from. Meaning to say if you're sincerely concerned because you want to be closer to Hashem or if this is a ploy of the yetzer harah to get you to avoid something that would help you get closer to Hashem (i.e. attending the meetings and recovering from the addiction). 

Just my $0.02

Re: Is SA (Sexaholics Anonymous) Kosher? 24 Apr 2020 12:57 #348733

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Re: Is SA (Sexaholics Anonymous) Kosher? 24 Apr 2020 15:32 #348739

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Was it the Serenity Prayer? Thats the traditional *poem* used in many peer support groups. (AA, NA, SA, etc). I personally, find the poem meaningful, and all groups encourage a connection to a higher power. Everyone has their own version of what a higher power looks like, be it G-d or your earthly support system. Everyone has their own relationship to their higher power, and you dont need to subscribe to anyone elses. 
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