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Re: Tryin' 09 Dec 2015 17:31 #270882

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we (whoever is brave enough) are sharin' one of our 4th step resentments today
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Re: Tryin' 13 Dec 2015 04:23 #271104

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skeptical wrote:
#12: Asking Hashem to take it away -
A few days ago, I was having a really tough time controlling my thoughts. Out of desperation, I thought to myself, "There are guys on GYE who say that they just ask Hashem to 'take away the lust,' and they say that it works. Why not give it a shot?"
I didn't verbalize it, there were people around, I just thought it: Hashem, I'm having a difficult time with these thoughts. Please take them away from me.
Poof! They disappeared immediately.
Why does this work?
I think the answer is that when we're asking Hashem to help us through it, we are forcing ourselves to think about Him, even if it's on the most basic level. Intrinsically we know that these desires are all about making ourselves feel good, throwing Hashem and all other victims to the sidelines. If I believe in Hashem enough to ask Him to help me through a hard time, I'm putting Him at the center of it all and then there's no room for entertaining such thoughts and desires.
May we all have the strength to keep Hashem at the center of our lives and ask Him for help when we need it.

Im an absolute am ha'aretz in 12 steps, but I promise you this works
Where did I learn this idea of Asking Hashem to take it away?
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Re: Tryin' 13 Dec 2015 04:31 #271107

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Mark, I didn't know you were part of the calls, welcome! At this point, I believe the calls have helped me more than anything else.

I had an experience a few weeks ago where I knew I was going to be facing a challenging situation. I worked on myself all day to prepare, I davened, I reviewed mussar, I shared some of it with my wife, and I asked Hashem over and over to take the feelings away from me. None of it worked.
As I left shul and got closer to home I kept waiting for the feelings to disappear. I climbed the stairs, still nothing, paused outside for another last minute appeal, nothing. Went inside and did the best I could not to let the challenge overwhelm me because there was no magic poof!
Maybe I didn't truly surrender or maybe Hashem wanted to see what I would do with the nisayon, who knows?
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Re: Tryin' 13 Dec 2015 05:43 #271118

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eslaasos wrote:
Mark, I didn't know you were part of the calls, welcome! At this point, I believe the calls have helped me more than anything else.

I had an experience a few weeks ago where I knew I was going to be facing a challenging situation. I worked on myself all day to prepare, I davened, I reviewed mussar, I shared some of it with my wife, and I asked Hashem over and over to take the feelings away from me. None of it worked.
As I left shul and got closer to home I kept waiting for the feelings to disappear. I climbed the stairs, still nothing, paused outside for another last minute appeal, nothing. Went inside and did the best I could not to let the challenge overwhelm me because there was no magic poof!
Maybe I didn't truly surrender or maybe Hashem wanted to see what I would do with the nisayon, who knows?


It did work.
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Re: Tryin' 13 Dec 2015 05:46 #271121

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markz wrote:
skeptical wrote:
#12: Asking Hashem to take it away -
A few days ago, I was having a really tough time controlling my thoughts. Out of desperation, I thought to myself, "There are guys on GYE who say that they just ask Hashem to 'take away the lust,' and they say that it works. Why not give it a shot?"
I didn't verbalize it, there were people around, I just thought it: Hashem, I'm having a difficult time with these thoughts. Please take them away from me.
Poof! They disappeared immediately.
Why does this work?
I think the answer is that when we're asking Hashem to help us through it, we are forcing ourselves to think about Him, even if it's on the most basic level. Intrinsically we know that these desires are all about making ourselves feel good, throwing Hashem and all other victims to the sidelines. If I believe in Hashem enough to ask Him to help me through a hard time, I'm putting Him at the center of it all and then there's no room for entertaining such thoughts and desires.
May we all have the strength to keep Hashem at the center of our lives and ask Him for help when we need it.

Im an absolute am ha'aretz in 12 steps, but I promise you this works
Where did I learn this idea of Asking Hashem to take it away?
From the guru - cordnoy. Because I listened in to his calls
He has an incredibly amazing engaging 'talk show'
Unfortunately on most occasion Im unable to do so due to work responsibilities, but if you can - do yourself a favor, and join in person or anonymously!


No guru.
Just have an open ear and doin' things I never understood, but many others said that it works.
Thanks for the note.
Thought I saw somethin' in the email from this thread as well.
Either way, keep up the good work.

B'hatzlachah
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Re: Tryin' 13 Dec 2015 06:19 #271127

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cordnoy wrote:
eslaasos wrote:
Mark, I didn't know you were part of the calls, welcome! At this point, I believe the calls have helped me more than anything else.

I had an experience a few weeks ago where I knew I was going to be facing a challenging situation. I worked on myself all day to prepare, I davened, I reviewed mussar, I shared some of it with my wife, and I asked Hashem over and over to take the feelings away from me. None of it worked.
As I left shul and got closer to home I kept waiting for the feelings to disappear. I climbed the stairs, still nothing, paused outside for another last minute appeal, nothing. Went inside and did the best I could not to let the challenge overwhelm me because there was no magic poof!
Maybe I didn't truly surrender or maybe Hashem wanted to see what I would do with the nisayon, who knows?


It did work.

Not for the first time, I find myself baffled by your cryptia. Please elaborate.
There was no magic poof, and even when the event concluded I was still harboring the resentment.
I am happy I'm still alive to tell the tale, but I was waiting for the magic poof described by a few Steppers and that didn't happen.
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Re: Tryin' 13 Dec 2015 06:31 #271130

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eslaasos wrote:
cordnoy wrote:
eslaasos wrote:
Mark, I didn't know you were part of the calls, welcome! At this point, I believe the calls have helped me more than anything else.

I had an experience a few weeks ago where I knew I was going to be facing a challenging situation. I worked on myself all day to prepare, I davened, I reviewed mussar, I shared some of it with my wife, and I asked Hashem over and over to take the feelings away from me. None of it worked.
As I left shul and got closer to home I kept waiting for the feelings to disappear. I climbed the stairs, still nothing, paused outside for another last minute appeal, nothing. Went inside and did the best I could not to let the challenge overwhelm me because there was no magic poof!
Maybe I didn't truly surrender or maybe Hashem wanted to see what I would do with the nisayon, who knows?


It did work.

Not for the first time, I find myself baffled by your cryptia. Please elaborate.
There was no magic poof, and even when the event concluded I was still harboring the resentment.
I am happy I'm still alive to tell the tale, but I was waiting for the magic poof described by a few Steppers and that didn't happen.


firstly, in your initial post, i misread a few words and thought that you were workin' on somethin' of the past; not the future (which was gonna come).
Secondly, in your initial post, you ended without really sayin' the conclusion.
Thirdly, and the most important, is that what worked was that you were connected to God for most of the time leadin' up to that situation.
finally, I do not believe that a "stepper" would ever use the words "magic poof." I think someone previously said somethin' to that effect that he found successful, but it is no magic poof; and as a matter of fact, we don't truly know what it is. We do know that if we follow this process:
A. Understand and concede that our life is unmanageable in its present state
B. Realize that God could and would restore us to sanity if we reach out to him
C. Commit to stop our behavior (all behavior)
D. Make a true 'fourth step' inventory (which will be beneficial for many people around here; myself included) and follow up on this with the other actionable steps
E. Constantly ask God to help us with our defects (mainly the resentment, anger, self-pride);

then, and only then, when we are faced with a lustful situation, or a resentment situation, we reach out and pray; and as AE said many times, "We do that over and over again." Even if fail, we come right back to it, and that is why a 'streak' means practically nothin' in the long term, although it can help move thin's along in the right direction.

b'hatzlachah
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Re: Tryin' 14 Dec 2015 17:48 #271260

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4th step discussion today.

Off day tomorrow.
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Re: Tryin' 15 Dec 2015 04:22 #271343

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SamJoe wrote:
I feel inadequate and less than everyone ave it drives me crazy when I have to interact with guys in the phone

cordnoy wrote:
You don't have to interact?

SamJoe wrote:
What do you mean I don't have to interact?

cordnoy wrote:
just listen

I'm one of those that has done this (press the mute button) and it has helped me! And I have a little suspicion that a few others have come on anonymously too

But these days due to my work responsibilities It's hard for me.
Also Ill be typing an email to a co-worker while listening and I may sign off KUTGW KOT.
And another coworker will ask me 'do you want me to bring you a cold drink from the cafeteria?' And I'm like yeah sure - woodford
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Re: Tryin' 15 Dec 2015 05:57 #271357

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Ok thanks for pointing that out, I'm going to see which call fits into my schedule the best and I'm going to try that out.

Re: Tryin' 17 Dec 2015 02:23 #271602

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A clear case of resentment that is boiling my nerves, and when I think why, the number one reason is that it is affecting my pride.....it is thankfully somewhat calming me but not halfway there yet.

First step I will write it out on paper here and now.
Second step I will pray to have it removed.
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Re: Tryin' 17 Dec 2015 17:32 #271632

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Step 4 today.
Step 5 Monday iy"H.

[Actually, we do all the steps every day, but on the call today, we will do the above.]
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Re: Tryin' 21 Dec 2015 17:59 #271958

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step 4 and 5 in 20 minutes.
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Re: Tryin' 22 Dec 2015 16:59 #272057

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Due to Asarah b'Teves Mincha, we will not be on the call today.

We will be makin' time for individual step 4/5's the entire mornin' tomorrow.

Email me please if you'd like to schedule.

b'hatzlachah
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Re: Tryin' 24 Dec 2015 19:52 #272288

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As one of my friends wrote me: s*x, s*x, s*x, s*x

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or, as they say in Italian: non pensa che al sesso or a quello (google translate does not do a good job with this phrase).
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