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Scientific studies show that it takes 90 days to break an addictive pattern in the mind. Start your own Log of your journey to 90 days! Post here to update us on your status and to give each other chizuk to stay strong!

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Re: No Despair Allowed 06 May 2025 20:17 #435542

youknowwho wrote on 06 May 2025 18:05:
Welcome back!

Please forgive me for asking a silly question. And please forgive me for asking it punkt here, despite having seen the same concept elsewhere on the forum. 

L'choirah, m'mah nafshach...oiff vee viet you are machshiv "cumulative count", than what is the chashivus of "day count"? And if there is "fort" a chiluk, than why mention it b'chlal? I would probably have over 7,000 cumulative days since I have engaged in this struggle, but l'mai nafka minah? It doesn't help me (stress on me, I acknowledge there may be another way of lookin' at this) because for the freaking majority of those thousands of days, I was a zombie addict with no real end in sight, whether I fell or not, or how often. 

Now, regarding "day count", it's also pretty murky. Yes, it is nice to see higher streaks, but it can quickly lead to burnout if a guy is restarting every 3-7 days or whatever. On the other hand, "day count" can be a useful way of tracking inner progress, by showing us how we are implementing tools and inner change over longer periods of time. 

End of Moldy Voldy's unsolicited and unhelpful ranting.

If cumulative count or any other type of count is somehow a motivator for you, please ignore me, I'm just an anonymous schmuck off the internet. 


I am not as much of a lamdan as you , but here are my thoughts for my situation:

I struggle with P & M. No denying it. Still, that is only one part of my life and a small part I might add. When the struggle feels bigger and takes over my mental space, I struggle even more. I feel like there is no way out. The cumulative count is a way of helping me size down the struggle and, for me, it helps to boost my commitment/morale. It shows me that I have succeeded for that many days.

I wouldn't describe myself as a "zombie addict," but in those 1600 hundred days, I had struggles and I overcame them. Or I set up boundaries that prevented me from being triggered in the first place. The cumulative days attest to the fact that I can succeed. By the way, my goal is not to graduate or kill the yetzer hara. My goal is set up my life in such a way that I don't fall and I prevent myself from being triggered to fall. So, if some or many of those cumulative days were challenging, all the more significant that I was still able to overcome that day's struggle.

Regarding your day count comment re: burnout, I agree and that is why I took a break from being active on the forum. Still, I have updated my count throughout all these months. For me, it adds accountability. I am tracking my progress.

Unsolicited, yes. Unhelpful, I don't think so.

End of work day update: I successfully avoided time-wasting browsing today. No falls to report. 

Re: No Despair Allowed 07 May 2025 12:40 #435562

I had an M fall last night. Oh well. One disadvantage of the day count is that it is easy to have a series of consecutive falls when going back to zero because 'I have nothing to lose'. Not doing that.

With Hashem's help, I am again taking on no time-wasting browsing today and I'll check in with a GYE chaver for accountability today and tonight.

Great day, all.
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