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Re: Yaakov's Ladder 02 Jan 2015 21:29 #246499

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Yankel I would like to remind you to: STOP THINKING SO MUCH! jeez, you're a thinking machine!
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Re: Yaakov's Ladder 03 Jan 2015 22:36 #246511

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dms1234 wrote:
jeez, you're a thinking machine!


I must say my friend, you have quite a good grasp of the obvious!!!

as for the first part, if you have any ideas of how to stop thinking (besides for burying my mind in porn and movies, or dying) please feel free to let me know of them!

Until then, I'm gonna try keeping my thinking as honest as I can and take it to task if possible.

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Re: Yaakov's Ladder 04 Jan 2015 01:20 #246513

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go ahead reb yankel. think all you want.
thinking too much can only harm when used for a substitute for action,
but in your case you may want to sort out your feelings on the matter, before you take the next step.
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Re: Yaakov's Ladder 05 Jan 2015 01:45 #246553

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Hi everyone!!

My name is Yankel, I'm a sexaholic!

Was on the edge all day waiting for the chance to get my fix, I really am itching for it!!

As for now, the day is over, it wasn't completely clean, but I'm glad to say that I'm still here!!

I am BH noticing more of my lusting in the streets and fantasies as well.

As opposing as I would like to be to the idea.....Today, Here I am!!
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Re: Yaakov's Ladder 05 Jan 2015 21:55 #246595

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ok reb yankel, we hear you loud and clear,
i hope your confessed bluntness helps you,

if it rings a bell within you, i want to remind you of something i think is very important.

there is hope for us.
and we must grab on to that metzius,
[v'afilu b'hasturah..][thanks again zemmy]
if you want to take a day at a time,
there is hope for that as well,
the point is after/during the time you paint the blackest picture of yourself...
don't forget that b'ezras Hashem,
we can get better.
i love you all

Re: Yaakov's Ladder 05 Jan 2015 21:58 #246597

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lavi wrote:
[v'afilu b'hasturah..][thanks again zemmy]
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Re: Yaakov's Ladder 06 Jan 2015 02:19 #246624

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cordnoy wrote:
The difficulty is acceptin' ourselves.
Hit the nail on the head. Opening up about the most embarrasing and private secrets about myself helped me to do just that.

Re: Yaakov's Ladder 06 Jan 2015 11:02 #246656

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gibbor120 wrote:
cordnoy wrote:
The difficulty is acceptin' ourselves.
Hit the nail on the head. Opening up about the most embarrasing and private secrets about myself helped me to do just that.


תלמוד בבלי מסכת יומא דף עה עמוד א


. דאגה בלב איש ישחנה רבי אמי ורבי אסי, חד אמר: ישחנה מדעתו, וחד אמר: ישיחנה לאחרים

i heard b'sheim the alter from kelm, we learn from here that any emotion that one shares with another, helps lower the emotion impact of that emotion.
maybe that's why opening up is such a useful tool.
i love you all

Re: Yaakov's Ladder 06 Jan 2015 13:02 #246657

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Reb Yankel the love that Hashem has for you does not change one bit after your fall than from before. You have a sickness , we all have a sickness ; falling is a symptom of it. just like fever is symptom of an infection . As long as you are working on the remedy your recovery will be closer and closer. פדני מעושק אדם-מן היצר הרע , davening is one of the best medicines on the market , and its free, 100% guaranteed lasting effect. May Hashem help you and us all so we can be free at last and live a life of real bond with Him. KUMT !! Behatzlacha !

Re: Yaakov's Ladder 06 Jan 2015 20:57 #246684

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lavi wrote:
gibbor120 wrote:
cordnoy wrote:
The difficulty is acceptin' ourselves.
Hit the nail on the head. Opening up about the most embarrasing and private secrets about myself helped me to do just that.


תלמוד בבלי מסכת יומא דף עה עמוד א


. דאגה בלב איש ישחנה רבי אמי ורבי אסי, חד אמר: ישחנה מדעתו, וחד אמר: ישיחנה לאחרים

i heard b'sheim the alter from kelm, we learn from here that any emotion that one shares with another, helps lower the emotion impact of that emotion.
maybe that's why opening up is such a useful tool.

In chasidisher seforim (Heichal Habracha, among others) there is the same idea, on the posuk נפשי יצאה בדברו, that when an idea is expressed it loses its potency
Sometimes life is like tuna with not enough mayonaise
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Re: Yaakov's Ladder 06 Jan 2015 21:47 #246693

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ZemirosShabbos wrote:
lavi wrote:
gibbor120 wrote:
cordnoy wrote:
The difficulty is acceptin' ourselves.
Hit the nail on the head. Opening up about the most embarrasing and private secrets about myself helped me to do just that.


תלמוד בבלי מסכת יומא דף עה עמוד א


. דאגה בלב איש ישחנה רבי אמי ורבי אסי, חד אמר: ישחנה מדעתו, וחד אמר: ישיחנה לאחרים

i heard b'sheim the alter from kelm, we learn from here that any emotion that one shares with another, helps lower the emotion impact of that emotion.
maybe that's why opening up is such a useful tool.

In chasidisher seforim (Heichal Habracha, among others) there is the same idea, on the posuk נפשי יצאה בדברו, that when an idea is expressed it loses its potency


hopefully, only when its a 'bad' idea.
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Re: Yaakov's Ladder 06 Jan 2015 22:33 #246705

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נפש can mean "desire" So it fits even better "My desires leave when I speak them out". I find that it works for me too.
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Re: Yaakov's Ladder 07 Jan 2015 00:26 #246711

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cordnoy wrote:
ZemirosShabbos wrote:
lavi wrote:
gibbor120 wrote:
cordnoy wrote:
The difficulty is acceptin' ourselves.
Hit the nail on the head. Opening up about the most embarrasing and private secrets about myself helped me to do just that.


תלמוד בבלי מסכת יומא דף עה עמוד א


. דאגה בלב איש ישחנה רבי אמי ורבי אסי, חד אמר: ישחנה מדעתו, וחד אמר: ישיחנה לאחרים

i heard b'sheim the alter from kelm, we learn from here that any emotion that one shares with another, helps lower the emotion impact of that emotion.
maybe that's why opening up is such a useful tool.

In chasidisher seforim (Heichal Habracha, among others) there is the same idea, on the posuk נפשי יצאה בדברו, that when an idea is expressed it loses its potency


hopefully, only when its a 'bad' idea.

The sefarim I saw were talking specifically about good ideas/inspiration. i tried finding the source and did not locate it.
Sometimes life is like tuna with not enough mayonaise
~Inna beshem ZS

Give, Forgive
~Cordnoy

The reason I'm acting as if I'm pregnant, is because I'm expecting. I should be accepting.
~TZ

Re: Yaakov's Ladder 07 Jan 2015 02:31 #246729

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ZemirosShabbos wrote:
cordnoy wrote:
ZemirosShabbos wrote:
lavi wrote:
gibbor120 wrote:
cordnoy wrote:
The difficulty is acceptin' ourselves.
Hit the nail on the head. Opening up about the most embarrasing and private secrets about myself helped me to do just that.


תלמוד בבלי מסכת יומא דף עה עמוד א


. דאגה בלב איש ישחנה רבי אמי ורבי אסי, חד אמר: ישחנה מדעתו, וחד אמר: ישיחנה לאחרים

i heard b'sheim the alter from kelm, we learn from here that any emotion that one shares with another, helps lower the emotion impact of that emotion.
maybe that's why opening up is such a useful tool.

In chasidisher seforim (Heichal Habracha, among others) there is the same idea, on the posuk נפשי יצאה בדברו, that when an idea is expressed it loses its potency


hopefully, only when its a 'bad' idea.

The sefarim I saw were talking specifically about good ideas/inspiration. i tried finding the source and did not locate it.


So, if one has a good idea; he tells it to someone else; it will get downgraded, so to speak?
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Re: Yaakov's Ladder 07 Jan 2015 02:47 #246732

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I have an idea about this, but I'm having trouble expressing it . Really.

Ideas have no physical bounds, but they are just ideas, and not very useful.

Once an idea is expressed or carried out, it is physical, and is limited, but, now you have something useful.

Imagine a spoon. I can be big or small, and of many different materials. The possiblities are endless, but you still cannot enjoy a bowl of soup.

Make a spoon, and you don't have all those options any more. You only have the spoon in front of you. But, you can now enjoy a bowl of soup.

Also, the imaginary spoon cannot be destroyed, but the real one can.

Perhaps that can help explain it. I think I heard something like this from a Rabbi Tatz recording once.

It is part of the difference between male and female (notice I did not say men and women). Male, is about ideas, limitless possibilities. Thus, the difficulty finishing a project, and perhaps why we often live in fantasy, and why many of us procrastinate, and have a hard time with committment.

Female, is about bringing things to fruition (think babies). It is a female traid to get things done.

Not sure if this is pertinent to the discussion, but it may be. Ideas are by nature of a more spiritual and infinite nature. Anything expressed into the pysical world is more limited and finite.
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