6:23 For a commandment is a candle, and the Torah is light, and disciplining rebukes are the way of life

6:24 to guard you from an evil woman, from the smoothness of the alien tongue.

6:25 Do not covet her beauty in your heart, and do not let her captivate you with her eyelids.

MORAL INSTRUCTION

Be wary of another woman,  do not desire to see her beauty or visualize it in your heart,  and do not let her take your sight with her eyelids , when she "gives you the eyes" , ie flirts with you.

DIRECTIVES, PRACTICAL ADVICE

When one has a value that is very important for to him to safeguard, but does not succeed, what does he do? (for example: It is important to be calm, but sometimes I cannot overcome my anger; it is important to lose weight but I cannot go on a diet; it is important to keep Shabbat but I cannot overcome the temptation go play football with my friends...).

What does one do?

One of advice wisdom offers is: make fences, that is , limitations and restrictions that distance you from what you want to avoid.

Thus, our section, which deals with distancing oneself from prostitution and adultery (which are an metaphors for all losts and passions). It recommends not only that we not lie with a harlot or an adulteress, but also:

Don’t think about her: That we not think about her, her beauty or the seductive look of her eyes; Not say in your heart, "how beautiful and cute" (verse 25): " Do not covet her beauty with your heart, and do not let her captivate you with her eyelids.

Don’t visit her: Do go to visit her and exhaust yourself with her(verse 29): "So is he who goes in to his neighbor's wife; no one who touches her will go unpunished"

Since:

6:27 Can a man rake embers with his skirt without burning his clothes?

6:28 Or can a man walk on live coals without scorching his feet?

PARALLELS IN TORAH

You shall not versus Do not

Exodus 20:14

20:14 You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, his manservant, his maidservant, his ox, his donkey, or whatever belongs to your neighbor."

Deuteronomy 5:18...And you shall not covet your neighbor's wife...	You shall not Absolute prohibition	Relates to the wife herself
Proverbs 6:25 Do not covet her beauty in your heart, and do not let her captivate you with her eyelids.	Do not Good advice	Relates to her beauty

It is absolutely forbidden to covet another person's wife, ie make plans of how to get to her and how to get her. Our verse recommend to make a fence around the Torah, and not even covet her beauty: do not say "I wish I had a beautiful woman like her" or "I wish my wife was as beautiful as her."

Fences and Restrictions

The obligation to make limitations are already hinted to in the Torah,

18:30 And you shall observe My charge, not to commit any of the abominable practices that were done before you, and you shall not become defiled by them. I am the Lord your God.

From the repetition of the root שמר   twice the Sages learned that one must to add to the safeguarding beyond what God commanded us in Torah:  20:1

Other fences mentioned in Proverbs:

Fence for diligence

24:27 Prepare your work outside and make it fit in the field for yourself; afterwards you shall build your house.

Fence for Yihud

5:8 Distance your way from her and do not draw near to the entrance of her house,

They [the Men of the Great Assembly] would always say these three things: Be cautious in judgement. Establish many pupils. And make a safety fence around the Torah.

(Ethics of the Fathers 1:1)

DETAILS

6:24  to guard you from an evil woman		from the smoothness of the alien tongue.
6:25 Do not covet her beauty in your heart,		and do not let her captivate you with her eyelids.
In order "to guard against an evil woman", (one that does come to you  seduce you) - do not covet her beauty in your heart Part 1 of 6:24 corresponds to Part 1 of 6:25		In order to guard yourself "from the smoothness of the alien tongue" - when she is talking don’t allow her to captivate you with eyelids
A desirable object [חמדה] has no temptation in and of itself, it is only the man that losts on his own" (the Vilna Gaon).		(After listening to her…) "...it looks good to a man ... and it seduces him  from the outside"  (the Vilna Gaon).

6:23  For a commandment is a candle		and the Torah is light, and disciplining rebukes are the way of life
6:25 Do not covet her beauty in your heart,		and do not let her captivate you with her eyelids.
Opposite the commandment  (Deuteronomy 5:18)  "And you shall not covet your neighbor's wife"  Is:  do not "covet her beauty in your heart"		When your thoughts are deep in Torah then you will not think about the winks (flirts) of the strange woman and she wont captivate you with her eyelids.

I wish you (and myself) a year of not being interested in "other" women. And gaining in the ability to be there for the real women in our lives (wife, sister, mother)

I have a problem with the second last brackets. It may explain some of your tendencies, like the inability to heed requests from others, if they are reasonable.

Ok so you have what to think about over the next days of repentance

Now can someone please give me a piece of their mind too

You're back? Are you lecturing us or yourself?

The problem is lust is like hunger .
You can not lecture it away.
You need to develop a strategy to fight it.

doorknob wrote on 24 Jan 2017 00:32:


Oh it's YOU! Shalom aleichem Reb Yid, we missed you. I have a few questions for you in learning when you have a chance.

I think you should move your thread to the Beis Midrash.

"You missed me"
That couldn't be .
I am new here today.

doorknob wrote on 24 Jan 2017 00:32:

As long as it's not more than $3.50 or else I won't have enough money for the adult store.




No, brother. Don't fight it. Surrender. (but not to it!!)

There will come a time when the GYE fighters and the GYE surrenderers will pit against one another. The fighters will win automatically because the surrenderers never pitched. 

But the surrenderers know better. What weapon can defeat the Yetzer Hora?

(and don't say Torah. That's a cookie cutter answer).

Maybe all of Yosef's talk about the twilight zone started to have an effect here on the forum...