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Re: My story 14 May 2017 20:09 #313063

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Alright, enough with all that. Now let's get to some real stuff about recovery.

​As I may have mentioned before, my current issue is that my truck is turned off. I wouldn't call myself falling if I had never gotten up and I can't say to myself "Keep on trucking" if my truck ignition is off.

Slowly I have been waking up, especially today being inspired by Rebbe shimon bar yochai and all the stories that I heard from Rabbi Elimelech Biderman Shlit"a about people getting helped by him, K'shem sh"hakadosh burich lakol, kach Reb shimon lakol (Just like Hashem is for everyone, so too Reb shimon is for everyone). Reb shimon has the power to take everyone out of there issues Chutz m'derech hatevah.

Anyway, if anyone has some words to turn me on, whether it is a good piece of scary mussar or a good piece of comfy chizzuk, it will go a long way.
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Re: My story 15 May 2017 11:19 #313111

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Mesayin, you think your ignition is off. If it were, you wouldnt be posting. Obviously you are in drive, even if you dont notice the gain.    What i think the other chevra were trying to communicate to you are the words of R Elozor ben Durdaya (Chazal's quintessential ba'al tshuva) "ain ha-dovor tolui ella bee", meaning, after all is said and done, i can blame whoever i want, but its only me that can get myself out of this mess with help from Hashem.     No matter whatever happened in your formative years, you can become a great person. (Could be you are already, and just you are too tough on yourself.......).    You should iyh have a lot of hatzlocha and be a source of inspiration for all those who have had tough histories. Keep posting. 
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Re: My story 15 May 2017 12:10 #313121

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Mesayin wrote on 14 May 2017 19:35:

cordnoy wrote on 14 May 2017 19:27:

Mesayin wrote on 14 May 2017 19:14:

Markz wrote on 12 May 2017 19:01:

Mesayin wrote on 12 May 2017 17:56:
We all know that all the great people in history suffered a bunch, then overcame their suffering and became great people.

But I still can't find someone in history that both of his parents messed him up.

Does any one know of such a person?

If not, then I'm going to have to be the first one.

Unfortunately you're not the first...

Each one is a tragedy

Many don't know how to get out of the rut, so they escape to drugs, for example Porn

Many have made it out of the rut of victim hood, but many are stuck there and need Towing if they are willing

I see you have your arm out
Are you looking for a hitch  ?

I'll tell you what, when I was in deep depression mode I was deflecting all types of chizzuk, like for example beshvili nivra haolam, additionally when someone would say "Hey look at all great people in history had a rough going" I would say "yeah, at least they had one parent".

But now I am bit better Mooded (if that's a word), I'm just academically asking if there is a such person in history and perhaps I can take some chizzuk from that person and of there isn't such a person, then either me or some other people here will need to be the first one. 

II really wanted to stay away from this discussion, but I'm gettin' pulled in.

Allow me please to say one thin': famous vort from one of the rebbes where everyone was complainin' about their lot, so they all deposited their "peckels" in a room and were told they can choose whichever one they want. Needless to say, they all chose their own.

My story is well known by many. I don't think that too many here have the amounts and severity of the issues that I B"H have (and I am very grateful for the part of my life where the issues are minimal and am grateful that the severe issues are what they are as well....whatever  the Hell that means), and now that I have been actively workin' the program for some time, I would never use my BAD WORD REMOVEDty life as an excuse for my torrid behavior. Just me saying.

B'hatzlachah

Thanks for your input but I think you may have read my posts with the wrong 'trupin', with the wrong tune.

Whenever I or anybody else are in deep depression we use all types of excuses to justify whatever the heck we are doing just for the fact that it is too painful to face reality, that is exactly what I was doing. This probably doesn't come to a surprise to you but hey, maybe it does.

My question is, as I wrote previously, is an ACADEMIC question, in other words "a history lesson" and perhaps I can take some chizzuk from that. If no one can come up with anything then I will just move on anyway.

Please don't make me need to put musical notes in my posts.

Personally, I wouldn't mind the musical notes. Perhaps it will encourage others to use some basic punctuation marks. Proper spelling would be too much to wish for.

Anyway, let's chuck the philosophy and academia for a moment: are you justifying your behavior (whatever that may be) on account of your parents? (Perhaps visit my "blame" thread.) It very well may be. 

Question is more of the next step.
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Re: My story 15 May 2017 12:11 #313123

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Mesayin wrote on 14 May 2017 20:09:
Alright, enough with all that. Now let's get to some real stuff about recovery.

​As I may have mentioned before, my current issue is that my truck is turned off. I wouldn't call myself falling if I had never gotten up and I can't say to myself "Keep on trucking" if my truck ignition is off.

Slowly I have been waking up, especially today being inspired by Rebbe shimon bar yochai and all the stories that I heard from Rabbi Elimelech Biderman Shlit"a about people getting helped by him, K'shem sh"hakadosh burich lakol, kach Reb shimon lakol (Just like Hashem is for everyone, so too Reb shimon is for everyone). Reb shimon has the power to take everyone out of there issues Chutz m'derech hatevah.

Anyway, if anyone has some words to turn me on, whether it is a good piece of scary mussar or a good piece of comfy chizzuk, it will go a long way.

Words turn me on.

Other stuff as well.
I'm all about that (substantial) bass, no trouble ....

Re: My story 15 May 2017 12:52 #313132

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Hashem Help Me wrote on 15 May 2017 11:19:
Mesayin, you think your ignition is off. If it were, you wouldnt be posting. Obviously you are in drive, even if you dont notice the gain.    What i think the other chevra were trying to communicate to you are the words of R Elozor ben Durdaya (Chazal's quintessential ba'al tshuva) "ain ha-dovor tolui ella bee", meaning, after all is said and done, i can blame whoever i want, but its only me that can get myself out of this mess with help from Hashem.     No matter whatever happened in your formative years, you can become a great person. (Could be you are already, and just you are too tough on yourself.......).    You should iyh have a lot of hatzlocha and be a source of inspiration for all those who have had tough histories. Keep posting. 

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Re: My story 15 May 2017 14:02 #313138

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Masayin, I know exactly what you mean by a compy chizik or scary mussar, those are the two feeling's that we are always looking to FEEL! And we go from one to another!!

we have to learn to start doing The right things with out those sweet feeling, when the sweetest feeling is like a dried prune, hashem I don't feel scared of you, I gave up on being a holy Jew, but.... I will still seek you out because YOU I believe that you are good for me, I am giving myself over to you even though I really don't want to and don't feel mushy about it either

Re: My story 15 May 2017 14:50 #313143

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Markz wrote on 15 May 2017 12:52:

Hashem Help Me wrote on 15 May 2017 11:19:
Mesayin, you think your ignition is off. If it were, you wouldnt be posting. Obviously you are in drive, even if you dont notice the gain.    What i think the other chevra were trying to communicate to you are the words of R Elozor ben Durdaya (Chazal's quintessential ba'al tshuva) "ain ha-dovor tolui ella bee", meaning, after all is said and done, i can blame whoever i want, but its only me that can get myself out of this mess with help from Hashem.     No matter whatever happened in your formative years, you can become a great person. (Could be you are already, and just you are too tough on yourself.......).    You should iyh have a lot of hatzlocha and be a source of inspiration for all those who have had tough histories. Keep posting. 

Awesome post!

No fair, when do I get that compliment 
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Thanks for the input HHM.

Please note that it is not the past that we are talking about here, it is the present. I am still suffering the fact that I have no connection to my parents and dealing with loneliness, it's not exactly crying over spilled milk.

But as you said, I cannot dwell on it, even though it is totally justified. It's just not going to help. 
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Re: My story 15 May 2017 15:45 #313152

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tiger wrote on 15 May 2017 14:02:
Masayin, I know exactly what you mean by a compy chizik or scary mussar, those are the two feeling's that we are always looking to FEEL! And we go from one to another!!

we have to learn to start doing The right things with out those sweet feeling, when the sweetest feeling is like a dried prune, hashem I don't feel scared of you, I gave up on being a holy Jew, but.... I will still seek you out because YOU I believe that you are good for me, I am giving myself over to you even though I really don't want to and don't feel mushy about it either

Thanks for your response but I respectfully totally disagree.

We do not stop our addictions/habits unless there is something pushing us hard to do so, even though we know that it is wrong, isn't that what rock bottom is all about? isn't "I will still seek you out because YOU I believe that you are good for me" a motivation statement?
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Tzaddikim are the not the ones that don't fall, they are the ones that fall constantly and get up constantly.

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Re: My story 16 May 2017 02:39 #313248

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Mesayin wrote on 15 May 2017 15:45:

tiger wrote on 15 May 2017 14:02:
Masayin, I know exactly what you mean by a compy chizik or scary mussar, those are the two feeling's that we are always looking to FEEL! And we go from one to another!!

we have to learn to start doing The right things with out those sweet feeling, when the sweetest feeling is like a dried prune, hashem I don't feel scared of you, I gave up on being a holy Jew, but.... I will still seek you out because YOU I believe that you are good for me, I am giving myself over to you even though I really don't want to and don't feel mushy about it either

Thanks for your response but I respectfully totally disagree.

We do not stop our addictions/habits unless there is something pushing us hard to do so, even though we know that it is wrong, isn't that what rock bottom is all about? isn't "I will still seek you out because YOU I believe that you are good for me" a motivation statement?

   Yes that's exactly what I mean we have to motivate ourselves just because I believe that you are good for me even though I don't FEEL it, that thought process can be bitter but over time it can become sweet, hope I am writing clear, 

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Hang this up on your wall:

MayanHamisgaber wrote on 16 May 2017 11:16:
Dear G-D

I know you know all that is happening to me
I know you do only the best for me
But please just listen to a child in pain
Maybe there is what to gain

I had a father 
He kept harmony between sister and mother
When our father was around
everything was sound

Then you called him to you
and without further ado 
He suddenly was no longer with us
​Having fulfilled his job with us

But the shock and pain stayed
did not go away and hence did not aid
​the turmoil and anger
underfoot came out and now there is much danger

A mother and daughter 
that can't be at peace with another
No longer with a father to talk to 
No longer with a husband to turn to

The others look on sadly
and miss the harmony badly
Taking sides is not a choice
but how to still their angry voice

Tensions rise everyday
and let's forget the holiday
Gratitude what is that
if my pain is not a fact

Oh how I wish this were all
the problems big and small
then there would be silence 
and at home maybe even peace

But no that is not to be 
​mediators we were meant to be
And hearing all the gripes 
has kept us up many nights

Walking on eggshells is not possible
but to break them will be probable
so add to the stress
who cares if we are in distress

Bank accounts with monet what's that
Thank g-d someone else pays the flat
Bills too are a treat
but what will there be to eat

Thank g-d we are not in debt
but our pillows are still wet
sweat and tears we shed
for our kids to be happy and fed

But lack of sleep is not good 
if we want to be in the mood
this is our lot we say
so we are here to stay

We know others have much worse
but that doesn't make it easy of course
So now that I've said a little
why I am so brittle

May it be understood
that this is a cry to the g-d that's good
should continue with the way that is planned
but can we see your helping hand?

My learning and prayer is not up to par
it would be easier to wish upon a shooting star 
or break a wishbone
just not my backbone

We feel locked up in a cage
with no room to rage
choking,gasping,holding our breath
hoping soon to get some breadth

So I hold out my hand to you
Yes you are always holding it it's true
but can I ask to see the hand of a father
holding me up, I hope it's not a bother

Can I cry on your shoulder 
maybe it can lift the boulder
weighing me down
I think I might drown 

Thank you for hearing me out
I hope it did not sound like a shout 
I know you only do the best for me
One day I hope to understand and see
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Re: My story 18 May 2017 16:48 #313548

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Re: My story 18 May 2017 16:52 #313551

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Is this your thread that you want the name changed?
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Re: My story 18 May 2017 16:54 #313552

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cordnoy wrote on 18 May 2017 16:52:
Is this your thread that you want the name changed?

Yes please.
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Tryin' this 18 May 2017 17:03 #313554

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Mesayin wrote on 18 May 2017 16:54:

cordnoy wrote on 18 May 2017 16:52:
Is this your thread that you want the name changed?

Yes please.
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If one gives up at the first sign of a struggle, he is really not ready to be successful."
"Tryin' and doin' are two different thin's - tryin' is hopin'; doin' is succeedin'.
"The right thin' to do and the hard thin' to do are usually the same."


Disclaimer: I am not a cheerleader; B"H, there are many on the site. I am here to change myself, and with God's help, by some mistake, I might even help change others.

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Test again
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Relapses and falling are inevitable, the challenge is getting up.

Tzaddikim are the not the ones that don't fall, they are the ones that fall constantly and get up constantly.

Feel free to contact me anytime through private message or chat.

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