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Re: The Real Me 25 Jul 2025 15:20 #439424

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proudyungerman wrote on 25 Jul 2025 03:46:
Day 552

My recent struggles with shemiras einayim have been tough. But, BH, I have made much progress and I am in a much better place.
I want to share the two things that were very helpful for me.

1. I started a weekly check in with a close GYE chaver to talk about our continous struggles. BH I am still very much alive, and as such, am still very much struggling. The area of struggle is light years away from where it was 552 days ago but it is still a challenge. So we decided to check in once a week and be completely open and honest with each other about our struggles, successes, failures, and stresses from the week.
It is so refreshing!

2. I recently had an argument with myself. I was feeling very unsettled about my struggles and I felt like I was teetering at the edge of the cliff. It could take only a small breeze and I'd be toast. And I was scared that once I was going to be toast, boy was I goin' to burn that toast and good. As I was stewing in that thought process I was also wondering how I can address it. At some point it hit me that I should challenge the original assumption. Who said I am teetering on the edge? Why do I have to feel like a little breeze will knock me over? If anything, I am working on this for over a year and a half (with tremendous siyatta dishmaya!) and i am nowhere near falling off the cliff! I got this! This made a lot of sense to me and I proceeded to dismantle yet another trick of the YH, and BH I am much more confident than I was just a few days ago.

As this thought hit me it really clicked. For many years I suffered, thinking deep down that I was pretty much a piece of garbage who pretends to be a proudyungerman/bochur. Here, on GYE, I discovered that I am truly a good, valuable person who has some flaws. This allowed me to be able to recognize my accomplishments for what they truly are and understand where I am actually holding and not fall prey to the YH.


(As an aside, I think that this Vayimaen video, besides for hitting me really deeply (the sincerity with which he talks really hits me...), is pshat in what HHM always says that people come to GYE to fix one part of their lives and end up changing many other parts also.)

proudyungerman,

What a powerful reframe! That moment when you challenged your own assumption about "teetering on the edge" - that's real wisdom in action. You're absolutely right - 552 days of growth doesn't put you one breeze away from collapse. It puts you on solid ground that you've built through consistent effort and siyatta dishmaya.

Your insight about shifting from "garbage pretending to be good" to "good person with some flaws" is huge. That's not just a mindset change - that's seeing yourself through Hashem's eyes instead of the YH's distorted lens. The weekly check-ins sound like gold. There's something so powerful about having someone who gets it and creating that safe space for complete honesty.

Thanks for sharing this - your clarity about dismantling the YH's tricks is going to help a lot of people here recognize those same false narratives in their own heads. Keep building on that solid foundation you've created. You got this!
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Re: I miss me... 25 Jul 2025 15:17 #439423

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i love your post as always, but disagree with the way you look at it, to me this is a "WOW DAY" the fact that you had all the reason to give in to your urges and you didn't that's called "beyond successful day" so keep pushing the YH away, but also change your prospectus, just by saying "eizhi gibor hakoveish as yitzroi" which is exactly what you did today...

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Great free resources:

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goldwings wrote on 25 Jul 2025 08:38:



P&M Sent a reply...

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Dear Former Friend,

You think you're so clever with your little victory speech, don't you? Calling me out, analyzing our "relationship," acting like you've figured it all out. But let me tell you something - I know you better than you know yourself.

You say you won't masturbate that night? Please. I've heard this song before. How many times have you written me these dramatic breakup letters? How many times have you declared your independence, only to come crawling back within days, weeks at most? Your willpower is adorable, really.

And this mentor of yours - oh, he's got you all fired up now, doesn't he? Filling your head with hope and strategies. But where was he at 2 AM when you were alone with your thoughts? Where will he be next week when that familiar emptiness creeps back in? I'm the one who's always been there for you, remember?

You talk about getting stronger every time you look away on the street. But I see how hard you're fighting just to keep your eyes forward. I feel the tension in your body, the way your heart races when you catch even a glimpse. You're white-knuckling it, my friend, and we both know that never lasts.

This whole thing about "genuine purity" over streaks? It's just another way to make yourself feel better about failing. Deep down, you know that broken streak stings because it represents exactly what you are - unreliable, weak, always falling short of your own promises.

Your wife complaints? Those aren't going anywhere. The distance between you two, the disappointment in her eyes, the way intimacy feels like a chore - that's all still there, simmering under the surface. And when the mentor's pep talks fade and real life kicks in, guess who'll be waiting with open arms?

I'm patient. I've got time. Enjoy your little rebellion while it lasts.


Dear P&M,
It's quite nice that you took the time to answer me, but I was rather upset when I saw that you edited your letter, due to generous feelings. You see, when I saw it last night, I thought you're being open with me, because you don't have weakling opponents OR friends. I don't know why you decided I'm a weakling or stupid, but it doesn't matter, last night I thought about the original letter you wrote AND IT MADE ME STRONG, so I'm quoting the original letter and here's my reply.

Like everything you say the letter is glamorous on the outside and empty on the inside.

First of all, thank you for agreeing that I'm a former friend.

Darling, I don't know how many times you heard that song and I don't care, it wasn't willpower that night, I DID NOT HAVE WILLPOWER OR ANY POWER that night, you knocked me out, remember?
The reason I won you was knowing where I'm standing and NOT listening to your CRAP! and btw I'm evidently not white-knuckling it, because I fell period, and also because I didn't masturbate that night, WHY? why wouldn't I do it? it would make ZERO difference to my streak!
I had enough of your brainwashing, STOP telling me how I'm doing everything wrong, you've been telling that to me every time I do something right, sensing that your end is near. {some anxiety anyone? -you love that!}

Sorry, but you don't know my mentor, he's always there for me, whether your there or not, and no, he doesn't give tips or strategies at all, he is just a TRUE FRIEND, when I finish talking to him, I feel the exact opposite of the feeling when I'm done with you! 
I wrote ONE and FINAL bye letter to you and I even wrote there that you might come back, you did! I guess you only read this letter, it looks like you got everything wrong! The intimacy only got better with my mentor, and worse with you, you made it feel like a chore, as I specified in previous letters. (my wife doesn't complain, I don't know where you got that from)

It wasn't a promise [this time] but I'm done with you and all your good ideas, it's not that I hate you per se, I actually admire your creativity [repackaging the same crap], it's just that I learned the hard way, don't tell me what I'm doing right or wrong just LET ME LIVE!

Yes, I will enjoy this victory and every victory over you! (call it a rebellion if you want...)

p.s. it would be helpful if you would read all the letters I sent you

Dear Friend,

I can see the fire in your words, and honestly, it's beautiful to witness. You're not just fighting back - you're standing in your truth and refusing to let that voice define your reality anymore.

You're absolutely right to call out the manipulation in that letter. The whole "generous" act - pretending to give helpful advice while simultaneously undermining your confidence - that's classic manipulation. And you saw right through it. That takes real clarity and strength.

What strikes me most is how you've learned to distinguish between the voice that tears you down and the one that builds you up. Your mentor leaves you feeling uplifted, while this other voice leaves you feeling drained and defeated. That's not coincidence - that's wisdom in action.

You mentioned that you didn't have willpower that night, and yet you made the right choice anyway. That's actually profound. It shows you're operating from something deeper than white-knuckled resistance - you're acting from genuine conviction and self-respect.

The fact that you can see through the repackaging of "the same crap" shows how much you've grown. You're not falling for the sophisticated arguments or the reverse psychology anymore. You know what serves your growth and what doesn't.

Keep trusting that voice inside you that knows the difference between genuine support and manipulation disguised as help. Keep leaning on the relationships that actually strengthen you. And keep writing these letters if they help you process - there's real power in naming these dynamics clearly.

You're not rebelling. You're choosing life.

Stay strong,
A friend who sees your growth
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Re: No Despair Allowed 25 Jul 2025 14:59 #439420

Good morning, all.

I am grateful to Hashem for another day free of pornography and masturbation. I violated my boundary of no leisurely Internet when alone yesterday. I communicated such to my accountability partners and am back on track today.

Thanks, @hashemisonmyside.
(Jokingly) I've got a siyum lined up for every day of the nine days to drink a l'chaim.

Day Count: 31 Days
No 'P' Count: 43 Days
Cumulative Count: 1701 Days
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Re: Religious pain 25 Jul 2025 14:18 #439419

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youknowwho wrote on 25 Jul 2025 14:00:

captain wrote on 25 Jul 2025 13:55:
I'm still going back and forth on this, whether it should be put up publicly. If someone wants to convince me to post it publicly, do so here. (You might want to read the post first, so PM me for it.)

Public. On a public forum, some will like what you write and some won't. 

True! But I'm more concerned about:
1) having a bad impact on a reader (making him angry at the system, or at rabbanim, etc. I've found this to be very damaging overall.)
2) It perhaps being understood in ways that don't contain the proper respect for incredibly great people.

Of course, some people do need to hear this. The question just is what the impact of making it public will be, and if there is anything negative, is it justified by the benefits to those who will gain from it being public.
In the place where ba’alei teshuva stand, even pure tzaddikim who never sinned cannot stand. (Rabbi Avohu, Brachos 34b)

Great free resources:
My favorite book for breaking free: The Battle of the Generation 
https://guardyoureyes.com/ebooks/item/the-battle-of-the-generation. Change your attitude and change your life!

Rabbi Shafier's incredible lectures on breaking free: The Fight. Download here: 
https://theshmuz.com/series/the-fight/

If you're only ready to try something very small (recently updated and PDF available):
https://guardyoureyes.com/forum/4-On-the-Way-to-90-Days/378128-Captain—Shtarkemotionals-Secret90Day-Challenge
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Re: Religious pain 25 Jul 2025 14:00 #439418

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captain wrote on 25 Jul 2025 13:55:
I'm still going back and forth on this, whether it should be put up publicly. If someone wants to convince me to post it publicly, do so here. (You might want to read the post first, so PM me for it.)

Public. On a public forum, some will like what you write and some won't. 

Re: Religious pain 25 Jul 2025 13:55 #439417

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I'm still going back and forth on this, whether it should be put up publicly. If someone wants to convince me to post it publicly, do so here. (You might want to read the post first, so PM me for it.)
In the place where ba’alei teshuva stand, even pure tzaddikim who never sinned cannot stand. (Rabbi Avohu, Brachos 34b)

Great free resources:
My favorite book for breaking free: The Battle of the Generation 
https://guardyoureyes.com/ebooks/item/the-battle-of-the-generation. Change your attitude and change your life!

Rabbi Shafier's incredible lectures on breaking free: The Fight. Download here: 
https://theshmuz.com/series/the-fight/

If you're only ready to try something very small (recently updated and PDF available):
https://guardyoureyes.com/forum/4-On-the-Way-to-90-Days/378128-Captain—Shtarkemotionals-Secret90Day-Challenge

Re: Religious pain 25 Jul 2025 13:55 #439416

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captain wrote on 25 Jul 2025 12:41:
I decided that it is too dangerous to post the stuff about European yeshivas in a public setting, as it could be misunderstood. But if anyone suffers with religious pain and feels like this might be relevant for their healing, they should PM me and I will send them my original post on this.

For some reason, my entire PM option is gone. Would love to hear more - youknowho300@proton.me

Re: Religious pain 25 Jul 2025 12:41 #439414

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I decided that it is too dangerous to post the stuff about European yeshivas in a public setting, as it could be misunderstood. But if anyone suffers with religious pain and feels like this might be relevant for their healing, they should PM me and I will send them my original post on this.
In the place where ba’alei teshuva stand, even pure tzaddikim who never sinned cannot stand. (Rabbi Avohu, Brachos 34b)

Great free resources:
My favorite book for breaking free: The Battle of the Generation 
https://guardyoureyes.com/ebooks/item/the-battle-of-the-generation. Change your attitude and change your life!

Rabbi Shafier's incredible lectures on breaking free: The Fight. Download here: 
https://theshmuz.com/series/the-fight/

If you're only ready to try something very small (recently updated and PDF available):
https://guardyoureyes.com/forum/4-On-the-Way-to-90-Days/378128-Captain—Shtarkemotionals-Secret90Day-Challenge
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Re: I miss me... 25 Jul 2025 11:39 #439413

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littleneshamale wrote on 25 Jul 2025 05:26:


But I don’t want that anymore. I don’t want to keep reinforcing the same broken loop.

So I made a plan: after work, I’d find a quiet park. Reset. Breathe.

Too many challenges with shmiras einayim. So I left.

Not actively choosing anything — just being pulled.

I made a few calls on the drive home. Most didn’t answer.
But then, one did. One brother picked up. And that call saved my day.
He helped me snap out of the fog — gave me just enough space to breathe again.

When I got home, I stayed around people. Kept the door open.
Put on a light show to ground myself. Just stayed above water.

Then I hit the road — I had a nice drive out of town for Shabbos.
And now, I’m writing this post, gonna get ready for bed, and put this day to bed.

It wasn’t a “wow” day. But it was a win.
And sometimes that’s even more powerful.

Because not all victories come with fireworks.
Some come in silence, in sweat, in choosing not to fall — even when no one would know if you did.

Today was clean.
Today was progress.
And I’m grateful.


I'm not changing your story but if you look at it this way, its definitely a majorly WOW!!!!! day, keep it up:)
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Re: I'm Fed Up 25 Jul 2025 11:27 #439412

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BH passed the nisayon of last night. Circumstances haven't changed, but feeling a lot lighter since I was able to unload here.
TYH for GYE.
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1. "זאת בריתי". hebrewbooks.org/56572 (PM me for a sharper version)
2. "שערי גדולה". hebrewbooks.org/48344
3.  guardyoureyes.com/ebooks/item/the-battle-of-the-generation

My journey: Emunah struggles, Celebrating a fall, I'm fed up(main thread), I'm drowning, Tips for Shmiras Einayim.
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P&M Sent a reply...

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Dear Former Friend,

You think you're so clever with your little victory speech, don't you? Calling me out, analyzing our "relationship," acting like you've figured it all out. But let me tell you something - I know you better than you know yourself.

You say you won't masturbate that night? Please. I've heard this song before. How many times have you written me these dramatic breakup letters? How many times have you declared your independence, only to come crawling back within days, weeks at most? Your willpower is adorable, really.

And this mentor of yours - oh, he's got you all fired up now, doesn't he? Filling your head with hope and strategies. But where was he at 2 AM when you were alone with your thoughts? Where will he be next week when that familiar emptiness creeps back in? I'm the one who's always been there for you, remember?

You talk about getting stronger every time you look away on the street. But I see how hard you're fighting just to keep your eyes forward. I feel the tension in your body, the way your heart races when you catch even a glimpse. You're white-knuckling it, my friend, and we both know that never lasts.

This whole thing about "genuine purity" over streaks? It's just another way to make yourself feel better about failing. Deep down, you know that broken streak stings because it represents exactly what you are - unreliable, weak, always falling short of your own promises.

Your wife complaints? Those aren't going anywhere. The distance between you two, the disappointment in her eyes, the way intimacy feels like a chore - that's all still there, simmering under the surface. And when the mentor's pep talks fade and real life kicks in, guess who'll be waiting with open arms?

I'm patient. I've got time. Enjoy your little rebellion while it lasts.


Dear P&M,
It's quite nice that you took the time to answer me, but I was rather upset when I saw that you edited your letter, due to generous feelings. You see, when I saw it last night, I thought you're being open with me, because you don't have weakling opponents OR friends. I don't know why you decided I'm a weakling or stupid, but it doesn't matter, last night I thought about the original letter you wrote AND IT MADE ME STRONG, so I'm quoting the original letter and here's my reply.

Like everything you say the letter is glamorous on the outside and empty on the inside.

First of all, thank you for agreeing that I'm a former friend.

Darling, I don't know how many times you heard that song and I don't care, it wasn't willpower that night, I DID NOT HAVE WILLPOWER OR ANY POWER that night, you knocked me out, remember?
The reason I won you was knowing where I'm standing and NOT listening to your CRAP! and btw I'm evidently not white-knuckling it, because I fell period, and also because I didn't masturbate that night, WHY? why wouldn't I do it? it would make ZERO difference to my streak!
I had enough of your brainwashing, STOP telling me how I'm doing everything wrong, you've been telling that to me every time I do something right, sensing that your end is near. {some anxiety anyone? -you love that!}

Sorry, but you don't know my mentor, he's always there for me, whether your there or not, and no, he doesn't give tips or strategies at all, he is just a TRUE FRIEND, when I finish talking to him, I feel the exact opposite of the feeling when I'm done with you! 
I wrote ONE and FINAL bye letter to you and I even wrote there that you might come back, you did! I guess you only read this letter, it looks like you got everything wrong! The intimacy only got better with my mentor, and worse with you, you made it feel like a chore, as I specified in previous letters. (my wife doesn't complain, I don't know where you got that from)

It wasn't a promise [this time] but I'm done with you and all your good ideas, it's not that I hate you per se, I actually admire your creativity [repackaging the same crap], it's just that I learned the hard way, don't tell me what I'm doing right or wrong just LET ME LIVE!

Yes, I will enjoy this victory and every victory over you! (call it a rebellion if you want...)

p.s. it would be helpful if you would read all the letters I sent you

"תנה בני לבך לי ועיניך דרכי תצורנה" (משלי כ''ג כ''ו)
אמר ר' יצחק, אמר הקב''ה אי יהבית לי לבך ועיניך אנא ידעית דאנת הוא לי (ירושלמי)


One night in the House of Commons, Churchill, after downing a few drinks, stumbled into Bessie Braddock, a Labourite member from Liverpool.
An angry Bessie straightened her clothes and addressed the British statesman.
“Winston,” she roared. “You are drunk, and what’s more, you are disgustingly drunk.”
Churchill, surveying Bessie, replied,
“And might I say, Mrs. Braddock, you are ugly, and what’s more, disgustingly ugly.-But tomorrow,” Churchill added, “I shall be sober.”
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hashemisonmyside wrote on 24 Jul 2025 16:15:
Amazing stuff!!

did you hear the Vayimain clip about scoring point like waze? every time you score like MM points, that clip was amazing how by pushing away an urge you just score unlimited points which you will eventually redeem big time

THANK YOU!!!

can you please post the link to the video?

"תנה בני לבך לי ועיניך דרכי תצורנה" (משלי כ''ג כ''ו)
אמר ר' יצחק, אמר הקב''ה אי יהבית לי לבך ועיניך אנא ידעית דאנת הוא לי (ירושלמי)


One night in the House of Commons, Churchill, after downing a few drinks, stumbled into Bessie Braddock, a Labourite member from Liverpool.
An angry Bessie straightened her clothes and addressed the British statesman.
“Winston,” she roared. “You are drunk, and what’s more, you are disgustingly drunk.”
Churchill, surveying Bessie, replied,
“And might I say, Mrs. Braddock, you are ugly, and what’s more, disgustingly ugly.-But tomorrow,” Churchill added, “I shall be sober.”

Re: I miss me... 25 Jul 2025 05:52 #439407

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Your a giant in our midst!

Keep posting your golden posts.

Get stronger and pull us all up with you!

Thank you for the chizzuk!!

"תנה בני לבך לי ועיניך דרכי תצורנה" (משלי כ''ג כ''ו)
אמר ר' יצחק, אמר הקב''ה אי יהבית לי לבך ועיניך אנא ידעית דאנת הוא לי (ירושלמי)


One night in the House of Commons, Churchill, after downing a few drinks, stumbled into Bessie Braddock, a Labourite member from Liverpool.
An angry Bessie straightened her clothes and addressed the British statesman.
“Winston,” she roared. “You are drunk, and what’s more, you are disgustingly drunk.”
Churchill, surveying Bessie, replied,
“And might I say, Mrs. Braddock, you are ugly, and what’s more, disgustingly ugly.-But tomorrow,” Churchill added, “I shall be sober.”
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Re: I miss me... 25 Jul 2025 05:26 #439406

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Today’s Post
Today wasn’t dramatic. It wasn’t some emotional breakthrough or spiritual high.
It was just hard. Quietly, steadily hard.

The day started early — no breathing room, no breaks. From the jump, it was hustle mode.
And as the hours went on, the pressure just kept piling. One task after the next. One more thing added to the list. I barely had time to think. But under all that busyness was a steady hum of dread — not about work… but about what would happen when I got home.

Because I know my pattern.
A day like this — stressful, exhausting, overstimulated — usually ends in porn or masturbation.
That’s the old wiring. It’s been my go-to escape for years.
But I don’t want that anymore. I don’t want to keep reinforcing the same broken loop.

A GYE brother told me something later in the day that’s been echoing in my head:
“If you don’t learn how to handle this now, when it’s just work stress, it’s going to eat you alive when you’re married.”
He’s right. And I’ve been carrying that with me.

So I made a plan: after work, I’d find a quiet park. Reset. Breathe.
But I don’t know the area near this office too well — and I wasn’t sure where to go.
There’s a girl in my office — not Jewish, kind, attractive. We both stayed late today.
I asked her if she knew any peaceful spots around.
She gave me a suggestion — and that should’ve been it.
Honestly, I could have easily just looked for something on Google Maps, but I wanted an excuse to talk to her.
Before even asking her, my mind already began building fantasies. False stories. Hoping she would come to the park with me.
I didn’t say anything inappropriate. But I didn’t shut the door, either.
I left it open. Hoping, maybe, she’d walk through.
Baruch Hashem, she didn’t. But it still left a mark. It felt like I had let something slip.

I went to the park. It was beautiful — but crowded. No shade.
Too many challenges with shmiras einayim. So I left.
Back in the car, alone with my thoughts, I felt myself spiraling again.
Not actively choosing anything — just being pulled.

I made a few calls on the drive home. Most didn’t answer.
But then, one did. One brother picked up. And that call saved my day.
He helped me snap out of the fog — gave me just enough space to breathe again.

When I got home, I stayed around people. Kept the door open.
Put on a light show to ground myself. Just stayed above water.

Then I hit the road — I had a nice drive out of town for Shabbos.
And now, I’m writing this post, gonna get ready for bed, and put this day to bed.

It wasn’t a “wow” day. But it was a win.
And sometimes that’s even more powerful.

Because not all victories come with fireworks.
Some come in silence, in sweat, in choosing not to fall — even when no one would know if you did.

Today was clean.
Today was progress.
And I’m grateful.

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