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Rookie Contibutor 28 Jan 2015 07:33 #247735

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I have over 80 days clean and I feel more confident than ever. All suggestions and comments are more than welcome
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Re: Rookie Contibutor 28 Jan 2015 07:50 #247736

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Welcome! Reaching out is so vital in the path of recovery, so it's amazing that you've taken that all important step. If i had one piece of advice it would be to take this journey one day/ step at a time. Know ahead that there will be falls, but yoy gotta focus on this monent right now. Not 5 minutes ago, or what will be tomorrow, but what's happening right now. Wishing you much hatzlacha. Keep on posting!

Re: Rookie Contibutor 28 Jan 2015 07:53 #247737

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Will do. I appreciate your chizuk.

Re: Rookie Contibutor 28 Jan 2015 10:03 #247739

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Hey welcome,

Thanks for the share.

Lookin' forward to hearin' more.

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Re: Rookie Contibutor 10 Feb 2015 04:31 #248404

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I am at 97 days. yes it feels awesome it one way but one issue still nags me.
I find it difficult simply walking the streets and not looking at the women. Any and all suggestions would be appreciated. I am good so far with the big stuff- porn, acting out etc. However its the street that is challenging. And we all know the small stuff brings to worse.

Re: Rookie Contibutor 10 Feb 2015 07:31 #248411

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watching your eyes is a fundamental , i would not categorize it as "the small stuff".I hereby am Mechazek you to come to the decision to have your eyes real guarded; after all we are all in this big ship that is taking us to safe shores called Guard Your Eyes. Be Matzliach in your Journey !

Re: Rookie Contibutor 10 Feb 2015 13:22 #248418

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Thank you for the correction

It sure is fundamental

Thanks for the chizuk

Re: Rookie Contibutor 10 Feb 2015 13:24 #248419

The method I've found to not look at women (seems to be one that has finally started working this semester and last, as opposed to the years of prior trying) is:

--focus on the ground. Find something that is part of the ground that is interesting, like a crack in the sidewalk, or a pebble, at an approximately a fixed distance away.
--know the pace you're walking. Initially I found it easiest to find a crack at a distance of 2-4 seconds from me, and I would refocus when it got 50% closer.
--practice closing your eyes from time to time in less crowded areas, regardless of whether there are women around. This is just so you have it in your arsenal. (Inspired by the anxiety control technique of deep breathing: the key is to do it often enough that your body doesn't think it's a cue of an attack.)

-- Eventually (read: several weeks) I was able to -- except when tired -- keep my eyes focused on the line in front of me, approximately at the distance the crack used to be, even without fixating.
-- When tired I will still fixate on something; it's just easiest.
I've failed, but I'm still alive, no? And even not given that, perhaps I could try again.

כִּי יֹדֵעַ אֱלֹהִים כִּי בְּיוֹם אֲכָלְכֶם מִמֶּנּוּ וְנִפְקְחוּ עֵינֵיכֶם וִהְיִיתֶם כֵּאלֹהִים יֹדְעֵי טוֹב וָרָע:

The day has come...the fruit is Torah.

Re: Rookie Contibutor 10 Feb 2015 15:38 #248427

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The only thing I have found as a long time solution for me was learning how to deal with my lusting.
As I learned to figure out what the undercurrents that was causing the lusting, I was able to deal with those issues and the lusting went away till the next time.
After that step, now when I find myself looking in the street, I can usually say to myself, hey you are having a problem with loneliness or stress etc. and then I focus on that issue and the lust slowly falls away.
On a regular basis, I don't stress myself out about not seeing any woman in the street. I rely on the 3 second rule which has been posted here many times. that is that if you see a woman, the goal is to not stare for more than three seconds and no double looks.
this helps not feeling stressed out about avoiding all the women which is unavoidable and makes it into a challenge that is more attainable. no staring and double looking.
Hatzlocho

Re: Rookie Contibutor 10 Feb 2015 16:19 #248433

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Glad to hear that you are doing well! Thanks for the chizuk! Keep posting, reading and using the tools here. Try a GYE phone conference.

It's curiosity that killed the cat. We don't need to look. It accomplishes nothing and only makes our journey harder. I try to focus on the times I don't look, take it one day at a time and celebrate those victories. I used the three second rule for awhile. You can find that here somewhere. For me though it is a matter of breaking the curiosity to look. So I try not to look at anything except for what I'm supposed to be looking at, like the road
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Re: Rookie Contibutor 10 Feb 2015 16:22 #248435

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Agree with Unan.

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Re: Rookie Contibutor 10 Feb 2015 22:26 #248467

Unan's approach is probably saner.

I don't know, I like having the ground to look at, but it's an acquired taste.
I've failed, but I'm still alive, no? And even not given that, perhaps I could try again.

כִּי יֹדֵעַ אֱלֹהִים כִּי בְּיוֹם אֲכָלְכֶם מִמֶּנּוּ וְנִפְקְחוּ עֵינֵיכֶם וִהְיִיתֶם כֵּאלֹהִים יֹדְעֵי טוֹב וָרָע:

The day has come...the fruit is Torah.

Re: Rookie Contibutor 11 Feb 2015 03:40 #248477

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While in the earlier days of this particular clean streak which was soon after I joined GYE and was using the forum and doing the 90 day chart and I was all gung ho about this new clean me, my attitude was 'I don't lust. I don't look at women. It's just not me and it's not what I do. I don't do that.' So during those days I had a reason to be in Manhattan one day. I just didn't look at the women or the billboards. I looked at the architecture and the massive buildings and what not, but not at where I shouldn't. It wasn't that hard because at that time I was a person who doesn't look. There are people like that and I was one of them. I don't feel like I am that strong right now because I'm generally not in the greatest of moods but I feel that I can be strong like that if I want to be. If I would have to go to Manhattan again I would probably get into that mode. I hope. With the grace of my creator, the doer of all my deeds, yisbarach shemo.

Re: Rookie Contibutor 11 Feb 2015 03:42 #248478

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I forgot to mention that when I had to be waiting in the stopped car I had a sefer with me to keep my eyes in.

Re: Rookie Contibutor 11 Feb 2015 19:01 #248518

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Thank you. I can really identify with the idea that now I am a non-looker. So I just don"t look. The idea of calling yourself something and saying to yourself I am that helps.That's why I call myself yireishamayim- I am not so presumptuous to actually think I am truly on such a lofty level. But by calling myself that, I am striving to become that, and my perception of myself- on some subtle level -is that I am just that.
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