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Wow! This post is wonderful. I read it and reread it. A great recipe for success. Thank you for sharing and may you enjoy clean days until 120 years.

People on the boards here are discussing what means they should use when dealing with these temptations.I just wanted to point out a few things that is found in all the holy seforim.

1)We are not to view the battle with the temptations as something as a battle per se(in a negative form)as that is what it seems on the surface,(which is inself is a tool that hashem gave to the koach hatuma to have us think that way in order to overcome that way of thinking and get rewarded for that ) but in its deeper from and at its essence,as a holy and sweet OPPORTUNITY to cleave to hashem(in a positive form). We are not to view the temptation as something evil that we have to overcome but to see the holiness hiding within the temptation which is none other than Hashem himself. We are to WELCOME the temptation the more we view it as a mask of hashem in the form of temptation,yetzer hora,addiction etc. Only sweet and holy things exist in this world as hashem would not do otherwise- and when we think we see otherwise, we dig deeper and find out the above holy yesod with time.It takes time, as this is the whole point in life, to tear the mask away and consequently loving hashem and doing his will more and more in quantity and quality. That is why it says - tov -is yetser tov, (tov) meod- is yetser hora. As that is in essence and inherently the ultimate and greatest good.
2)On the same note, when we know that Hashem knew in advance that there will be "evil" in the world- be it in the form of people being "evil" or in the forms of sin and the like and even so thought it was worth creating the world with all of the seemingly negative stuff- we get to the next point.
When a yid succumbed to temptation- he is to know the following.
The almighty knew about the fall in advance and that still did not make him want to stop with his plan to bring this jew into the world with all his falls. To the contrary- EVERYTHING is going according to plan.(Free will is only prior to the fall)This is the mightiest tool the yetser hora has at his disposal to make the jew think otherwise.
As the seforim explain how that is the only way a person merits to fulfill his mission down here. Only via falls. Sheva Yipol Tzadik- is the only way to become holy as all the Seforim explain. It is not that we have to "overcome" our fall but rather to the contrary- this "fall" was precisely what I needed as part of my lifes work. One of the many ways to understand this is-
3)After a "fall" a person naturally feels dejected.There is nothing sweeter to hashem than a jew who naturally(aka a tool of the yetser hora for us to overcome)does not feel like he is succeeding spiritually and still continues trying to be a good and devoted son to hashem. This beautiful and sweet devotion is by far sweeter to hashem in some ways than that of someone that is on "streak" of holiness and is actually feeling good about his spiritual standing. The mesiras nefesh of the former jew is incomparable to that of the latter one.Only thru a fall does hashem get this special nachas from a yid.There are no words to describe the greatness of such an act over and over and over again. Than can only happen after a "fall". We are not privy as to why hashem in his infinite wisdom chose some pepole to be the of the former and some of the latter type, but that does not concern us at all.
4)after a "fall" - the angels dance in heaven when the yid summons up all of his efforts and tries to the best that he can to regain simcha to being a jew.(as if nothing happened)It is unnatural and is superhuman and it is God that helps the yid in doing that.There is no holier work than this form of selfless and(and at first and superficially,emotionally unrewarding) unnatural serving of our father in heaven.This another reason why hashem made him "fall"- so that he can bring this special incomparable nachas to hashem over and over and over again. This is what will bring Moshiach to an extent more than someone who did not have this work cut out for him.As the big Rebbees used to say - that the entrance to the holy depths of what it means to be a eved hashem is as follows: One who his knife is still dripping with the blood of chas vsholom another jew that he has just killed rachmono litzlan and cannot summon up the energy to daven mincha with a zeal and fire like that of the holiest jew(after doing teshuva)- has not BEGUN to taste the sweetness of our holy Torah.(the yetser hora has at his dispoal(for us to overcome) the tool to confuse the person about the above concepts with the thought that this is somehow contradictory to the mitzva of teshuva etc.and contradictory to what he has learnt all his life about how serious it is to sin and the subsequent punishment etc.
That is all for the person to think before the sin. NOT about the sin he has already committed.
5)The yetser hora has at his disposal in order for us to overcome the other weapon:
after a "fall" the person thinks - I messed up again. The comedy and genius of this thought is that this thought that the person is thinking stems from a holy place in his soul is so plainly a thought from the yetser hora himself( in order for us to overcome)
As there is not SUPPOSED to be a the letter/word I in a yids life. Its all about hashem. If you are thinking that YOU messed up, apparently you think that this journey has something to do with you. aka arrogance.(for us to overtome that thought)This is another reason for the"fall" happening to you- so that you can work on the holy mida of humility.The thought that should accompany you after a "fall" is how you repent for the pain of the shechina when a yid was destined to cause the pain of the shechina.It is a thought that makes us CLOSE to hashem. Its a thought that makes us feel GOOD to be so close to him that we care about his pain kvayochol.This is yet another reason for the "fall"- so that hashem wants to reward you for doing teshuva over and over and over again. The time to do teshuva is a time of simcha. It is the holiest mitzvah to repent and worry about HASHEM and our neshomo with is part and parcel of that.The yetsher hora has us confuse that with doing the exact opposite- thinking how WE "messed up" and feeling bad and sad about OUR shortcomings- when its not about us at all. As the seforim write that ANY thought before, during or after a "fall" that makes us feel bsimcha is holy and if it makes us feel bad- it it the yetser hora camaflouged very skillfully to reward us for overcoming.
All of the above is to be studied repeatedly and slowly to be absorbed into ones self for his entire life as it increase the love to hashem and kamayim ponim el ponim will be reciprocated via loving hashem and wanting to do his will.
The yetser hora fights with all the might that hashem gave him (in order for us to overcome) to have us not realize all of the above, and its our holy lifes work to slowly and with patience and knowing with bitochon that ALL is well right now and will continue being so until we will all see it so plainly and clearly with moshiachs arrival soon iyh.

Hi INA,
I stopped by your forum after seeing you on the Wall of Honour. I am jealous of you that you took control as a bochur. I am married for many years and have only discovered GYE recently. Your strength is mechazek me and I wish you much hatzlocho in every aspect of your life. Shidduchim, Torah, Parnosaah and everything else!

AMEN!!

needtoquit wrote:

When I wrote this I didn't realize the great nimshal. If we don't look both ways before crossing the street, and stay always conscious of the truck called addiction which the Y"H is driving, we are liable to get side swiped just like this chicken.

However, just to avoid confusion, certainly during the summer I don't recommend looking both ways more then absolutely necessary.

Hatzlacha,
NeedToQuit

the yetzer hara has full control....outside, no doubt, and inside...on our screen.

anybody know a good 'key-logger'? [it happens to be im not nichshal in these things right now, but I want it in place for the next nisayon]

thank you

a key logger for someone else to monitor you?

Spector Pro is good. It records everything on the screeen. It can also do key logging, but I'm not sure you need that. Who is monitoring it?

I would have a married friend monitor

Wanna make sure it sees inprivate browser, skype, yahoo messenger

Ty

will the friend have access to your computer, or need to see it remotely?

Remotely

Can't it work thru email?

I don't think Spector Pro can, but Eblaster can I beleive.

You are marrying your computer?

Is that OK with the GYE handbook?

Better check with Kedusha or Guard before doing something drastic like that. Will you two use a Rabbi, at least?

It's great to be back, a few things.First the thank yous.

Thank you everyone who posted nice things here and for keeping the thread safe and alive while i was gone.

Thank you dov for restoring the true spirit of this thread when it got too serious (though i think u wanted to bring out a point, but tough luck. im taking it as a joke)

A big thank you to Skeptical and Zemmy for letting me text and call them the whole summer at all hours of the night.(It's a big sacrifice, imagine someone being able to make your phone ring just because he has to talk to you about it raining again)

Thank you to everybody who checked in with me during the summer (you know who you are and if you want me to mention you by name just complain below and i"ll take of you)

OK.

This isn't as fun.

So two nights ago i ended up with internet access on my phone and went to the wrong places, not p*** but very close to it.B"h i did not touch myself and eventually i shut it off.The next day i asked zemmy and skeptical if they think it's considered a fall or not (gave them some more detail) and we came out that it will be counted as a slip but if it ever happens again then it will be a fall.

In a little while when i feel that i'm out of the danger zone regarding the "i might as well get some more falling in and count it as one fall" i may or may not decide to count this as a fall, but until then i know the drill. KOMT.

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gotta get to work.

recently read about sharks. they do not have gills that operate as other fish species do. They lack certain muscle structures and are only able to breath by the force of the water going through their gills generated by their forward motion. hence they do not stand still, ever, and they do not go backwards.

so this can be a good lesson. sharks may be the most truckingest animals. keep fooring.

but it is important to remember that we are not sharks. as it says in Pirkei Avos, הוי רץ כצבי, run like an antelope. they turn around every so often to see if they are in danger.\
vedoik.

just 'splainin inna's words.