Zvi, I don't have anything smart to say. I guess it is day by day and we are so small, so small and so helpless, Hashem help us.

Counting is great, but like Dov said, I would take todays soberness over trillions of days in hart beat. Why? I don't know, maybe cos today is a gift, present. Hm, that sounds smart!?

Sorry, that are words from Dov and AA, not mine. But hey, they could be right? Check out the White Book again perhaps!? Darn it, look at Dov, I think he was out of learning for a long time when joining an SA, he was just getting better from lust. People keep telling me here, you can't do the same stuff and expect different results. Ups, I sound angry. Well actually I am angry at myself, cos I feel like acting out and this is is actually my medicine.

Anyhow Zvi, I wish all you all the best. Fell schmell.

And, how are you doing?

Zvi, they say you make an awesome Kishka, I'd like to quote you some words from the heiliger Bardichever in Harry's Son:
Bardichev


The Yetzer Hara tells you davening: Kishka
He tells you learning: Kishka
He tells you Kedusha: Kishka!
Tune him out!
Keep on trucking!

for me after a fall its not a matter of continuing from where i was before the fall, but continuing the best i came from where i am RIGHT NOW. on my successful days its not about how good my davening is compared to whatever, or how easy or hard it is for me to open a sefer compared to whatever, but how am i going to do the best i can in the situation i find myself in today.

I fell- again... twice in two days... I haven't done that for months...

In order to get out of the ditch you find yourself in, you need to make a decision to reach up to the surface and pull yourself out.

You can do it. All it takes is a decision.

Are you ready to leave the dirt behind?

Fell schmell. Hashem loves you, we love you. One day at a time, one day, talk to Hashem, I am just on my way to ask Him again for today. I meet you there.

I'm still feeling quite down and unmotivated. Usually when I fall I listen to music to pick me up, but now I can't because its the 3 weeks...
I don't feel like I'll ever get out of this... it's just going to carry on and on and on...

zvi wrote:


zvi wrote:

zvi wrote:

I'm not a Rav, but there may be a heter in your case to listen to music. I know that people hav gotten heterim to listen to music cuz they can't exercise without it! This doesn't seem any less important. I actually once saw a sheilah about listening to music during the 3 weeks nowadays because our dor is unusually sad and depressed. You might want to call your Rav and say that you are feeling down, can you listen to music to pick yourself up.

Also, I assume that you know that you will pick yourself up, it just feels like you won't.

Get involved in a good project like cleaning the attic. Or just do some plain old exercise (to music or not ask your LOR).

Imagine all of us here at GYE cheering you on

Here's a group photo .

Thanks for that one. I'm going to ask my Rebbi about listening to acapella... I'm ususally machmir about that, but it might just be stupidity in my case.

gibbor120 wrote:


Hey!!! You left me out!!

oops,

What acapella do you listen to?

What get's me up sometimes, sorry to write this, but sometimes it's Jimi Hendrix and Vodoo Child, lately it's Bach Chaconne. In my car I listen to Szering's version of Chaconne all the time and it just moves me to... darn it... moves me to tears.

And thanks for this mention of music. I have been thinking about this in my car: How do I bring Bach into GYE. Really, no joke, I did think about that.

So I can now write BACH and it's ok. It doesn't sound too presumptuous or too forced. It is now kind of normal that I write about Bach.

Sorry, enough of that. I am trying to be funny in that last part and having some trouble.....

Hm, one day at a time.

You know, I always wonder how some guys here are all happy, making jokes and being sooooo darn sober. I feal like out of place then. So I hope I didn't do that now.

All the best to you HEILIGER YIDDELE!!!!!!

it can be easy to sound all happy on a forum. i know on my bad days

A massive thank you to all of you. B'H I'm a lot happier now, all without the music. Though I texted my Rebbi, and he said I could break my acapella chumra. Now I don't need to though B'H, because I've picked up without it.
Though if I c'v need it in the future, I can listen to it now...