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Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 21 Nov 2014 20:09 #243869

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reallygettingthere wrote:
People who eat parve cholent don't drink beer.

they drink this

nesher-malt-beer.jpg
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Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 21 Nov 2014 22:24 #243878

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Is a vegan cholent different than a vegetarian cholent?

Does a dairy cholent have the same halacha as a parve cholent? Or is it B'di-evid (correct spelling?)? L'maaseh there is something extra in the pot. Its not just barley and whatever else is in a parve cholent.
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Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 21 Nov 2014 23:48 #243884

a dairy cholent is an abomination and morally wrong.
i used to look back all the time saying "oh no! what have i done! Hashem help me erase the past." and i never heard a response.
finally i started looking forward saying "Hashem i'm leaving the past to you and i'm forgetting all about it. help me have a good future. help me from here and on be the person You want me to be." and that's where i realized Hashem had been waiting to help me all along

Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 21 Nov 2014 23:57 #243885

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nitzotzeloki wrote:
a dairy cholent is an abomination and morally wrong.

Even on Shavuos?
אלא יש לו לייחד כל מעשיו לשמו הגדול לבד, ולא ישתף עמו דבר אחר
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Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 21 Nov 2014 23:58 #243886

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On second thought, a dairy chulent is basar b'chalav. So, yeah, its an abomination even on Shavuos.
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Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 22 Nov 2014 02:57 #243888

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What if i don't eat meat on shabbos? Is it better to not eat dairy/parve cholent than to not eat cholent?

Isn't not eating cholent an issur d'roisa?
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Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 23 Nov 2014 09:25 #243918

there are possibilities where one could consider having parve cholent, milchig cholent is a stirah minei ubei
i used to look back all the time saying "oh no! what have i done! Hashem help me erase the past." and i never heard a response.
finally i started looking forward saying "Hashem i'm leaving the past to you and i'm forgetting all about it. help me have a good future. help me from here and on be the person You want me to be." and that's where i realized Hashem had been waiting to help me all along

Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 24 Nov 2014 22:26 #244009

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ZemirosShabbos wrote:
You must put in a six-pack of quality beer.


Is the inyan of the beer a din of bishul or a din of achila?
nafka minas are:
1. Does the beer have to be put in before the cholent gets yad soledes bo? (If so, bedieved is it enough to cool off the cholent or does it have to made from scratch? )
2. Can the beer be heated up in a separate pot and then mixed in together?
3. Is it davka a din in putting the beer into the cholent or can you put the beer in first and then add the cholent?

Another shayla that must be determined:
Can you eat such a cholent during the nine days? perhaps the beer gives it a din of cholent completely thus rendering it as if it was a fleishige cholent?

Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 25 Nov 2014 02:29 #244043

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You don't need to worry.
I put in meat and beer!!!!
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Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 25 Nov 2014 02:45 #244044

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Then you have to wait 12 hours before you can eat Milchigs.
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Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 28 Nov 2014 18:21 #244258

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in that case, Unan and I will be coffee-free (at least with milk) for a pretty long time.
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Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 28 Nov 2014 20:16 #244275

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uh, you're meant to open the bottle and pour it in, not just plunk in a closed bottle of beer. i wonder if the beer bottle explodes and/or turns brown like cholent eggs. and is it hatmana? and is the label kosher? and is this how they made cholent in Machu Picchu?
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Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 28 Nov 2014 20:27 #244278

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T'was poured in already.
Kosher? That's overrated.
Machu Pichuu....? Not sure.
Bucharest? Who gives a damn?
Don't forget a blech!
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Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 28 Nov 2014 20:41 #244280

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ok phew
remember the kishke and the kugel and a turkey drumstick lichvod hayom (you may need a bigger crock pot)
Sometimes life is like tuna with not enough mayonaise
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Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 29 Nov 2014 01:00 #244289

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You my as well just throw in a matzah ball too! Do you keep gabrukts all year around?
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