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Re: gartel 26 Sep 2024 14:44 #422428

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frank.lee wrote on 07 Sep 2024 23:10:
I heard in a shiur from Rabbi Fischer, how do you know that a long beard is not a proof of yiras Shamayim? Because growing a long beard is passive, just don't trim your beard. That is not real work. Becoming a Yarei Shamayim necessitates real work.


I guess it's the same with the passive nature of not watching porn.

Re: gartel 26 Sep 2024 14:47 #422429

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thompson wrote on 26 Sep 2024 14:44:

frank.lee wrote on 07 Sep 2024 23:10:
I heard in a shiur from Rabbi Fischer, how do you know that a long beard is not a proof of yiras Shamayim? Because growing a long beard is passive, just don't trim your beard. That is not real work. Becoming a Yarei Shamayim necessitates real work.



I guess it's the same with the passive nature of not watching porn.

I don't know too many people with strong urges regarding trimming their beard.
Mustache though, maybe yes 
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Re: gartel 26 Sep 2024 15:14 #422434

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thompson wrote on 26 Sep 2024 14:44:

frank.lee wrote on 07 Sep 2024 23:10:
I heard in a shiur from Rabbi Fischer, how do you know that a long beard is not a proof of yiras Shamayim? Because growing a long beard is passive, just don't trim your beard. That is not real work. Becoming a Yarei Shamayim necessitates real work.



I guess it's the same with the passive nature of not watching porn.

I think I agree with this. The mere absence of porn watching doesn't show you anything about the person's yiras shamayim. 

Re: gartel 26 Sep 2024 16:06 #422439

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frank.lee wrote on 07 Sep 2024 23:10:
Interesting old topic. I think that just because ppl have acted out even in the presence, or whilst engaging with, holy people or articles, doesn't prove that it is not a help. Same with gartel and tzitzis. It can, and should, help you control your thoughts and actions, to a point. 

But I think an underlying message here is that real progress needs real work. 

I heard in a shiur from Rabbi Fischer, how do you know that a long beard is not a proof of yiras Shamayim? Because growing a long beard is passive, just don't trim your beard. That is not real work. Becoming a Yarei Shamayim necessitates real work.

So go ahead, wear Tzitzis, and a gartel! But also do more work.

Or as I heard from Reb Noach Weinberg, people with beards also like ice cream! 

Re: gartel 26 Sep 2024 16:23 #422441

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I have no idea why anyone needs a proof that having a long beard is not a siman of yiras shomayim. I have an untrimmed beard. And I have no idea why anyone would think that a beard IS a siman for yiras shomayim. What shaychus yiras shomayim to beards? Maybe yiras trimmers, yiras scissors, (before some Chassidim get upset-I'm kidding around!) but I don't see why anyone would think it is a proof of yiras shomayim.
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