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Re: mekubal 03 Jan 2018 05:28 #324624

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Trouble wrote on 03 Jan 2018 00:47:

ColinColin wrote on 02 Jan 2018 23:28:
Welcome Mekubal.

A friend of mine was once hopitalized very suddenly after he collapsed.
He was lying there in a hospital bed hooked up to an IV drip and extremely weak.
It was night.
So he davened Maariv.
He was physically too weak to stand up, and confined to bed.
So he davened Shemoneh Esrei whilst lying in bed.
He did what he could under the circumstances.
He was not committing an aveirah.
And neither are you by not going to Shachrit on Shabbat...you are helping your wife and helping bring Shalom Bayit.
Kol kavod!

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These are triggers which can cause a relapse.

Hungry 
Angry (Resentful/In emotional pain)
Loneliness 
Tiredness

Be aware of one of these or any combination of these.
They make you vulnerable.
So if you manage to recognise them, reach out to a supportive friend or log into here and chat to others who understand.
Or go for a walk, anything healthy to de-stress.
Or in the case of hunger - eat!

Do not be hard on yourself, do not feel low self-esteem.
Keep positive, keep motivated.

I used to masturbate for shalom bayit; this way I didn't pressure my wife into having sex when she wasn't quite so in the mood (like most of the time).

Trouble's story is my story too.
But then a miracle happened and I found out that I was the problem.

Re: mekubal 03 Jan 2018 11:30 #324631

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Trouble wrote on 03 Jan 2018 00:47:
I used to masturbate for shalom bayit; this way I didn't pressure my wife into having sex when she wasn't quite so in the mood (like most of the time).

i used to try to have sholom bayis so i can masturbate (read: sex with wife)

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Re: mekubal 03 Jan 2018 18:35 #324645

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tzomah wrote on 03 Jan 2018 11:30:

Trouble wrote on 03 Jan 2018 00:47:
I used to masturbate for shalom bayit; this way I didn't pressure my wife into having sex when she wasn't quite so in the mood (like most of the time).

i used to try to have sholom bayis so i can masturbate (read: sex with wife)

If I understand this correctly, this is great. Sorta reminds me of an old thread, which could have been titled: "How to get more sex from one's wife when she's not quite in the mood."
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Re: mekubal 04 Jan 2018 11:09 #324681

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yup
or how about how to get more sex (masturbate) when she is in the mood
or plain ol' how to just make her damnit in the mood

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Re: mekubal 04 Jan 2018 19:55 #324713

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I once heard of an instance where a Rabbi was critical of people who masturbate when their wife refuses to have sex.
One man's argument to the Rabbi was that it calmed him down and stopped him from having an affair because he was often away on business and alone in hotel rooms and vulnerable.
The Rabbi told him that he would lose some of his stored up feelings for his wife, and so when they finally did have sex the wife would notice the man was not as passionate as he should be.

I am single, so I merely repeat what I heard, without me having had to live in a sometimes tricky home environment.

My equivalent could be is it better to masturbate than to visit a prostitute...at least I save time and money and do not risk getting a sexually transmitted disease?

Not claiming it is easy to achieve this, but overall it is best to not masturbate or visit the prostitute and to do something kedusha instead.
If it was easy to think calmly when sexually frustrated or emotionally upset, then many of us would not need to be on this forum.
Last Edit: 11 Jan 2018 20:29 by colincolin.

Re: mekubal 04 Jan 2018 20:26 #324715

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Hi Colin. Whats a worse formula to die,  to tie your neck to the shower, or to throw yourself down a building. Well in your instance it is both dying. Both kills the person. Needing to act upon Lust kills a person to death. it kills the spirit of the person.
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