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Re: Sick and tired 20 Nov 2024 19:09 #425504

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138eagle wrote on 20 Nov 2024 17:25:
Recently I saw a Chovos Halevavos quoted by Rav Fishel Schachter in the Chayeinu (in the kids section).

“We all make mistakes in life. You can get angry, you can blame, you can give up. Or you can say what the  Chovos Halevavos teaches us – that once something has already occurred even if it is the result of our own mistake, it was meant to be”.

Now it is my (our) job to deal with the current situation and not cry about it but to make the best of it.


I did not see the Chovos Halevavos inside, if you want you can email me and I can send you a copy of the article.

Thank you for this חיזוק! You can send it to the email in my signature, I'd appreciate that. (Also I haven't seen Chayeinu in a while, would be nice ). BH I really don't dwell on these thoughts, it's not my nature, and I believe in ה׳'s השגחה, plus the אונס nature of being exposed at such a young age, as I mentioned in my poem. That being said, there's some pain deep in my heart that I've carried for years, it just wanted to be free. I guess my above belief is still only in a בחינה of על לבביך to a certain extent. 

It reminds me of the first time I spoke to HHM, he was trying to get me to appreciate that I'm בעצם a good guy, with an issue. I told him that I believed him, and in fact that wasn't my struggle because I had seen a therapist a few years earlier who, though he didn't get me clean, had convinced me that my struggle was normal etc. And yet, when we ended the call, HHM told me to go to a mirror, and tell myself "I'm really a very good guy" (something like that), I actually started crying as I did it. Point is, clearly there were (and probably still are) some very deep, unresolved feelings of low self-worth, bolstered by years of failure and יאוש. So BH I'm doing much better, but I still appreciate the constant חיזוק, and need it more than I realize, which is OK.
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Last Edit: 20 Nov 2024 20:09 by iwantlife.

Re: Sick and tired 20 Nov 2024 19:17 #425505

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Once we're being honest, I need chizuk too sometimes. More times than I like to think I do....

Iwantlife, keep it up!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Sick and tired 20 Nov 2024 19:38 #425507

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Thinking back to days when the Torah vastness beckoned,
When all goals seemed achievable, with greatness I'd reckon.
Adrenaline pumped and aspirations abound,

The path to Gadlus I believed I'd found.

Disaster struck when promiscuity had me trapped,
A new road blazed, directly to Hell it was mapped.
One step, then another, all closer to self-destruction,
I couldn't stop, no-one to save me or provide much needed instruction.


Having begun on GYE 6 short months ago,
Meeting HHM and the other מלאכים that helped me grow.
I've come to see something heretofore blind,
Had you told me this some time ago, I'd have thought you were out of your mind. 


A mission, so holy, to bring our brothers back, 
Time, emotion, and energy are the successes I look to rack.
To think the initiator of it all was illicit and forbidden,
What propelled me to this glorious mandate, a dark, ugly, secret hidden.


Dear Iwantlife, I feel your pain too, though know you're in a good place,
I also feel this conflict of what could've been had I hadn't joined the 18+ rat race.
Yet the pleasure I take in playing a role for others to recover,
Makes me wonder if this was Hashem's plan for me to discover...


Iwantlife, keep shteiging, growing, connecting, and most of all, counting!! (and trucking, of course)

P.S. thanks for giving me an excuse to write a poem. I needed that!
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Last Edit: 20 Nov 2024 19:39 by Muttel.

Re: Sick and tired 20 Nov 2024 19:42 #425508

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Muttel wrote on 20 Nov 2024 19:38:
Thinking back to days when the Torah vastness beckoned,
When all goals seemed achievable, with greatness I'd reckon.
Adrenaline pumped and aspirations abound,

The path to Gadlus I believed I'd found.

Disaster struck when promiscuity had me trapped,
A new road blazed, directly to Hell it was mapped.
One step, then another, all closer to self-destruction,
I couldn't stop, no-one to save me or provide much needed instruction.


Having begun on GYE 6 short months ago,
Meeting HHM and the other מלאכים that helped me grow.
I've come to see something heretofore blind,
Had you told me this some time ago, I'd have thought you were out of your mind. 


A mission, so holy, to bring our brothers back, 
Time, emotion, and energy are the successes I look to rack.
To think the initiator of it all was illicit and forbidden,
What propelled me to this glorious mandate, a dark, ugly, secret hidden.


Dear Iwantlife, I feel your pain too, though know you're in a good place,
I also feel this conflict of what could've been had I hadn't joined the 18+ rat race.
Yet the pleasure I take in playing a role for others to recover,
Makes me wonder if this was Hashem's plan for me to discover...


Iwantlife, keep shteiging, growing, connecting, and most of all, counting!! (and trucking, of course)

P.S. thanks for giving me an excuse to write a poem. I needed that!

A brilliant poem and an oh so true message! Warms my heart. Thank you R' Muttel!
"Believe you can and you're halfway there" - Theodore Roosevelt
"Comparison is the thief of joy" - also Theodore Roosevelt

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Last Edit: 20 Nov 2024 19:57 by iwantlife.

Re: Sick and tired 21 Nov 2024 04:42 #425540

Thank you R Muttel for such an inspiring poem! 
@IWantlife, I started reading your thread and I am so awed by you. I am obviously nowhere near where you re holding in this journey but reading what you write, I feel like i am reading myself. I am not quite ready yet to post my owns story with all the gory details but the feelings of lack of self-worth I have had for many, many years. I am  frankly amazed how far you have come with all that baggage. I can only hope one day I will be near you. If you would be willing , I would love to speak with you and get some tips. You can message me if you are interested. Thank you so much

Re: Sick and tired 21 Nov 2024 17:44 #425578

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A dear friend of mine here mentioned recently that on a lot of threads, he'll see a lot of ups, but less about downs. It's possible he was referring to me, in which case I appreciate the מוסר; I'm definitely guilty of this. B"H my P & M - free streak is still going strong. That being said, I had a hard week. I've slipped and slid. Looked at some things I shouldn't have, for longer than anyone should. And I know why I'm doing this, to relieve a recent uptick in stress. Same old habits. B"H not going as far as I did in the past, thanks to 1) Accountability and 2) Friends. I've spoken to quite a few of you over the last few days. I would be back to day 1 if not for you all. So thank you again.

I think it's important to balance the knowledge that while any slip, that is to say looking at something inappropriate in my case, should be avoided at all costs; and, as HHM pointed out to me, it's squarely in the category of לא תתורו אחרי לבבכם, at the same time, be able to differentiate between that and an actual fall. If I had kept the distinction clear in my mind, I probably would've only slipped and not even slid. Point is, don't let the YH capitalize on 'small' lapses, because he'll use them to bring you down. Remind yourself how far you've come, after years of tumbling mindlessly into Porn Abyss, that this is 'just' a wrong turn on to Lust Lane, which, in the scheme of recovery, is not a fall, and you can still make a u-turn.

I'll end off with the acknowledgment that the work never ends. In particular, I need to manage stress better, which is a separate avodah from managing lust. To add the above quote from R' Redfaced "Behind EVERY thread that gives you kina, is a user that was once convinced it would be impossible to get to where he is now", if, by any chance, you got some קנאה from this thread, know that behind it is a user who still struggles. It's not always smooth sailing. The waves get choppy. But, we're all in this boat together, so you may as well grab an oar.

Humbly,
iwantlife
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Last Edit: 21 Nov 2024 19:02 by iwantlife. Reason: sourced the quote!

Re: Sick and tired 21 Nov 2024 18:01 #425579

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iwantlife wrote on 21 Nov 2024 17:44:
To add the above quoted "Behind EVERY thread that gives you kina, is a user that was once convinced it would be impossible to get to where he is now", if, by any chance, you got some קנאה from this thread, know that behind it is a user who still struggles. It's not always smooth sailing. The waves get choppy. But, we're all in this boat together, so you may as well grab an oar.

Humbly,
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Re: Sick and tired 21 Nov 2024 18:54 #425587

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I love this post.
It ebs and flows. It gets easier but is never easy.
"Behind EVERY thread that gives you kina, is a user that was once convinced it would be impossible to get to where he is now"
So true and so powerful to have this in mind! Thank you for bringing this to light as it's known but not thought of.

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Re: Sick and tired 21 Nov 2024 19:24 #425597

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iwantlife wrote on 21 Nov 2024 17:44:
A dear friend of mine here mentioned recently that on a lot of threads, he'll see a lot of ups, but less about downs. It's possible he was referring to me, in which case I appreciate the מוסר; I'm definitely guilty of this. 

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