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Re: Not liking this one bit...so hard to stop :( 06 Feb 2018 17:24 #326528

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counter_clock wrote on 06 Feb 2018 16:34:
Thanks ieeyc.

It must be a tough situation where you don't feel comfortable confiding in your wife.  I believe it was a mistake on my part to tell my wife initially about masturbation (I've since learned to not be so open with people in general, and to be more sensitive with my wife in particular).  She eventually caught me using porn shortly after we got married, and it was a huge blow up. 

But like you said, it's the situation we find ourselves in.  I try to believe that every situation we are in currently is the situation Hashem wants us to be in ...for whatever reason. 

Hi counter clock, 
Many moons ago I confessed to looking at porn to my wife. We had been married less than 3 months. Big mistake. However I then went to the other extreme of hiding all my nisyonios from her. 
I believe that was also a mistake for us, but obviously I can't assume that would be a mistake for you also.
A while ago I started dropping hints and now she at least knows that at times I struggle with fantasy and touching myself, and she is, or appears to be very understanding, especially as it hasn't gone beyond that in her mind. It's not a common topic of conversation but I sometimes mention it or if she asks I won't lie about it. More along the lines of  - I know I'm going to be by the computer for a few hours, and that's a difficult time. Maybe come and visit me at some point just to say hi. Or - yesterday I was on the computer all afternoon, and it was hard  -  but I behaved / I touched myself a little but then stopped. I'll try to do better next time.
I just find complete avoidance leads to a breakdown of trust and mental intimacy.
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Re: Not liking this one bit...so hard to stop :( 06 Feb 2018 18:35 #326532

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Thanks for sharing eslaasos - that must have been crazy when you shared with your wife three months in!  I told my wife about M before we got married, she knew (vaguely) about the porn but thought it would stop after we got married. 

I like your approach - don't hide everything, don't reveal everything.  I'll touch base with some advisers for their thoughts on that approach.  Like, maybe I can let her know about the struggle in general but not the specific details...

Re: Not liking this one bit + Letter to Hashem 06 Feb 2018 18:49 #326533

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LETTER TO HASHEM:

Dear G-d, 
Sometimes I hate You and the situation you've put me in.  I didn't ask for this test; I didn't ask for the pain and stress and loneliness YOU'VE put me through, exacerbating and intensifying the urges and tests to a constant breaking point, over and over again.  
Did I ask for pain and suffering? Did I ask to be tested - only to fail - over and over again?  Did I ask for the anguish this has caused me and my wife??
I cursed You this morning.  It wasn't the first time that I've told You to f-off, to go bother someone else...what do I need this for?

...But eventually I come back.  Because no matter the pain You put me through and the tests that hit me, I know that You love me (and all your Jewish children) more than I can imagine...and when I cry and scream no one feels the pain more than You do...
Thank you for life.  Thank you for being there.  I'm sorry I cursed You...it's just so hard sometimes...and I just want to be close to You 
Love, 
Me

Re: Not liking this one bit + Letter to Hashem 06 Feb 2018 20:23 #326544

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Welcome!  Stress is a big trigger for acting out. What are you working on with your therapist? 

Re: Not liking this one bit + Letter to Hashem 07 Feb 2018 00:07 #326575

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Re: Not liking this one bit + Letter to Hashem 07 Feb 2018 05:08 #326586

Wow i love your honesty! And i feel your pain, today i was going through a lot of pain and stress and also sat down to write a letter to hashem i've heard many tools people have shared on the GYE forum! But there is nothing like writing a raw and honest letter to hashem i've found it as a great tool to deal with stress and pain! And make it as honest as possible

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Re: Not liking this one bit + Letter to Hashem 07 Feb 2018 06:15 #326588

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counter_clock wrote on 06 Feb 2018 18:49:
LETTER TO HASHEM:

Dear G-d, 
Sometimes I hate You and the situation you've put me in.  I didn't ask for this test; I didn't ask for the pain and stress and loneliness YOU'VE put me through, exacerbating and intensifying the urges and tests to a constant breaking point, over and over again.  
Did I ask for pain and suffering? Did I ask to be tested - only to fail - over and over again?  Did I ask for the anguish this has caused me and my wife??
I cursed You this morning.  It wasn't the first time that I've told You to f-off, to go bother someone else...what do I need this for?

...But eventually I come back.  Because no matter the pain You put me through and the tests that hit me, I know that You love me (and all your Jewish children) more than I can imagine...and when I cry and scream no one feels the pain more than You do...
Thank you for life.  Thank you for being there.  I'm sorry I cursed You...it's just so hard sometimes...and I just want to be close to You 
Love, 
Me

please rewrite it before you mail it:smiley:

לב  טהור   ברא   לי   אלקים , ורוח  נכון    חדש  בקרבי

  to all my friends who heeded my request  to be so generous and give me a negative karma  for the sake of me acquiring       
                                                . humility ,i humbly  thank you                                                                                                 

Last Edit: 07 Feb 2018 19:36 by ieeyc.

Re: Not liking this one bit + Letter to Hashem 16 Feb 2018 00:43 #327011

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HI CC.
I am new here myself, joined  about 1 month ago. The people here are supportive, and many can empathize with you, having been there and done that themselves. 
You mention struggling with porn. Are your devices filtered? Block off the entrances for "it" to get in.
I saw your letter to Hashem. It reminds me of a true story that I read (don't remember where). A Jewish family was leaving Spain during the expulsion in 1492. They lost all the property and money that they owned. They were on a boat sailing away to an unknown destination. Pirates attacked them. They violated his wife in front of his eyes, and she perished from their treatment. The pirates set him and his 2 young sons adrift in the Mediterranean, and they washed up on an empty island. He left his 2 little boys on the beach, and he went off to search for some food, as they had nothing to eat for some time. By the time he came back, both of his children had starved to death. He had nothing left. He turned his eyes heavenward and said "Hashem, you took away my land, you took away my money, you took away my wife, and now you took away my 2 children. You are testing me severely. But know that I love you Hasem, and nothing you do will take that away!"
Good for you for coming back, even though you feel tremendous pain.  A close connection to Hashem means more kedushah. Kedusha and tuma can not both exist at the same time at the same place. The more Kedusha you have, the more the tumah will fade! When in the throes of a strong nisayon, build up your kedusha. Shout out (metaphorically) your love for Hashem! Proclaim it to the mountains, the trees, your car, and to the walls of your house! The closer your connection to HIM, the less power the yetzer has over you!
Hatzlacha Rabbah to you, and keep fighting!
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