LifneiHashem wrote on 08 May 2017 01:53:

Sorry, but it would be great if you can explain a little bit in what you mean. 

 For a second I thought you meant by lust and lack of interest in religion not being dependent on each other sort of like Shlomo's comment that lust isn't simply a religious transgression. But it seemed that you explained that by saying that you rediscovered meaningful religious life many years before addressing lust issues. Does that mean your lusting didn't effect the meaning in your religious life? Are you saying lust has nothing to do with spirituality has no relation? 

So, if possible, can you explain what you mean by
1) lust and lack of interest in religion not being dependent on each other, and 
 2) you rediscovered meaningful religious life many years before addressing lust issues.

I apologize if i'm not getting the obvious.. this is something that has been on my mind. You don't have to get too much into your personal life. Don't want to intrude. 

LifneiHashem wrote on 08 May 2017 01:53:

Sorry, but it would be great if you can explain a little bit in what you mean. 

 For a second I thought you meant by lust and lack of interest in religion not being dependent on each other sort of like Shlomo's comment that lust isn't simply a religious transgression. But it seemed that you explained that by saying that you rediscovered meaningful religious life many years before addressing lust issues. Does that mean your lusting didn't effect the meaning in your religious life? Are you saying lust has nothing to do with spirituality has no relation? 

So, if possible, can you explain what you mean by
1) lust and lack of interest in religion not being dependent on each other, and 
 2) you rediscovered meaningful religious life many years before addressing lust issues.

I apologize if i'm not getting the obvious.. this is something that has been on my mind. You don't have to get too much into your personal life. Don't want to intrude. 

This is a Jewish site... we do have the occasional Xtian, and there even was a Moslem or 2. I don't know if we ever had any Chinese philosophers before. Just go easy on the deep stuff, or you might confuse-us

Confucius wrote on 08 May 2017 23:33:

Sorry, I assumed you were joking. Yes I found meaning in my Judaism. 

shmirashachaim wrote on 09 May 2017 03:21:

Thanks for asking. Actually I was saying close to what Shlomo said. I, like many others used to view this as a religious struggle- I need to work on this because its an aveira. I also need to work on my lashon hara. That approach didn't get me too far. I went through periods of "teshuva" followed by sinning again, or at times giving up on this aveira and focusing on improving other aspects of my religious practice. Real change started Only when I finally woke up and realized that I need to address this not because it's a sin but rather because it is actually negatively affecting my life. I think Mr confusios has an advantage in this respect, because he already came to this conclusion. I hope that clarifies somewhat.

With an attitude like this you shall go far


KOMTNMW

Gevura Shebyesod wrote on 08 May 2017 23:42:

Ha! 
I actually know zero philosophy. For some reason Confucius popped into mu head as a username. 

With an attitude like this you shall go far


KOMTNMW

Confucius wrote on 09 May 2017 20:47:

Definition of zero philosophy = Plato claimed that numbers exist in some mind-independent abstract heaven. Nominalists claim that there is no such heaven. Clearly, we can't see, hear, taste or feel numbers. But if there are no numbers what is mathematics all about?

Welcome Confucious. With Hashem's help you will break free of the insanity of "needing" to act out. As this issue settles, your religious concerns will lessen and everything will fall into place. A diabetic who is out of whack, in and out of the hospital, etc has no time or emotional strength to come to terms with any confusion he has with religion. Once the sugar/insulin has been regulated and he feels like a human being again, he can dedicate thought and time to the philosophical issues..... Wishing you much success. And welcome to the family.