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Linux 17 Sep 2014 22:36 #239805

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Sh"Uvrochoh to all members.

I am a little occupied now so will get to the point.

Does anyone have any suggestions for filtering Linux? I am trying Open DNS, but it does not look too great right now, as it doesn't filter everything properly (too lenient) and is very easy to change the settings. Perhaps loosing the pw would help, but the there are probably easy ways around that. The Venishmartem or Nativ filters do not work on Linux if I am not mistaken, but have not really double checked. Does anyone have an idea, or better; experience??

Re: Linux 17 Sep 2014 22:44 #239806

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Welcome!

I know very little about computer programming, but I do know about being friendly to a fellow yid. Come on in and share your successes and defeats (whatever you feel comfortable) with us! The oilam is full of great ideas (sorry for stealing everyone's lines ).

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Re: Linux 17 Sep 2014 22:45 #239807

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Google brings up a lot of filters for Linux.

Re: Linux 17 Sep 2014 23:22 #239809

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WELCOME! I'm sure some of the experts will chime in soon. Any of the filtering organizations should be able to help. Why not send an email to vnishmartem? They can probably point you in the right direction.

Re: Linux 18 Sep 2014 17:13 #239848

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Ditto to everyone else!

Don't be a stranger, if you are struggling then we're in the same boat!

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Re: Linux 18 Sep 2014 20:55 #239865

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If you are running Linux you are by nature going to be more exposed ... (Linux is open source harder to restrict) maybe get a router that you can filter.

Re: Linux 24 Sep 2014 04:37 #240312

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Hi! i know a solution, you can download wine(www.winehq.org/), is a simulator that you can simulate windows programs in linux. And you can download a very good filter called qustodio(www.qustodio.com/) is a very complete filter.

i hope that i can help you.

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Re: Linux 24 Feb 2015 22:38 #249350

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joniteshuba wrote:
Hi! i know a solution, you can download wine(www.winehq.org/), is a simulator that you can simulate windows programs in linux. And you can download a very good filter called qustodio(www.qustodio.com/) is a very complete filter.


Unfortunately, Wine will probably only let you filter the Wine web browser, not your Linux web browser. But thanks for trying to help.

Some better suggestions are below.

hopbt -- are you still only using OpenDNS? Did Google not turn up anything better for you? What distribution are you using? And how's your recovery going?

Edit added in Kislev 5777

I have edited this post to include a summary of my main suggestions for Linux users.  My edit follows.

Meetings

Go to open AA or NA meetings.  These have helped me a lot.  Even if you disliked your first meeting, don't give up.  Try three different meetings, and keep going back to whichever one you prefer.  Similar to what R' Avraham Twerski has once written, whenever they say "alcohol" or "drugs", think "lust".

NA seems to be mostly males, not females.  In NA, after the meeting, introduce yourself to people, say you're new, and schmooze with people.  If a person asks you what your drug of choice is, you can quietly tell him "pornography".  I think most of the drug addicts in NA have also struggled with pornography use, and they'll usually admit this to you once you've admitted it to them.

Don't go to SA meetings before you read:  https://guardyoureyes.com/tools/live-groups

Note that SA meetings are almost 100% men.  In my city (Toronto), I've only ever seen one woman in SA, she's sexually sober, and she's anyway not usually present.

Window blinds

Keep your computer within view of a window, preferably facing a street, or else facing a neighbor's window.  Before using your computer, day or night, open the window blinds so that they're wide open and anyone can see in.

This tip is based on something I heard from a friend, who IIRC heard it from a rabbi.  I've found it to be a useful tip.

Linux filtering and monitoring software

IIRC R' Belsky recommends in Shulchan HaLevi (Israel Bookshop Publications) that every Jew should use both filtering and monitoring software.

In short, on Linux, here are the options available.  All are available for free.  Some are open-source.

For filtering

Use e2guardian if you can, or DansGuardian otherwise.  For more information on e2guardian, see page 3 of this thread.

e2guardian or DansGuardian work best if you have both a blacklist and a keywordlist.  I got these lists from somewhere, long ago. I don't remember where. I think I'm currently using the Shalla blacklist.

DansGuardian requires a downstream proxy server.  e2guardian might also; I'm not sure.  Nowadays I use Squid as a downstream proxy server.

For monitoring

Use NetResponsibility or RescueTime.  Connect your copy with someone else's account so that they can view your logs.

Combination products

Pluckeye can provide both filtering and monitoring.

Additional tips

No matter what else you use, you should also use OpenDNS FamilyShield both on your computer and your router.  FamilyShield isn't as powerful as a real filter, but it's a good adjunct to a filter -- an extra layer of defense.

IIRC I have blocked all of YouTube, since there is some bad content there and YouTube's "safety mode" isn't enough.

Conclusion

Good luck!  Please add a post to the end of this thread. Tell us whether you found the software easy or difficult to install.  Also ask us any questions you may have.
Last Edit: 07 Dec 2016 20:09 by tealhill.

Re: Linux 24 Feb 2015 23:50 #249352

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Welcome tealhill!
Sounds like you're quite the veteran!
you would be doing us here on GYE a service if you started your own thread to share your experiences with us.
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"Today, damn it! Today!" - cordnoy
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Re: Linux 25 Feb 2015 16:10 #249391

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Welcome Teahill,

We'd appreciate to hear more from you.

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Re: Linux 25 Mar 2015 09:21 #251195

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As far as I can tell, Wine does not work quite that way. It only works for some programs, not just everything. Am I mistaken?

Re: Linux 25 Mar 2015 09:37 #251197

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Yes. I tried that, and still do. But I have not found any real solution that really works. Except one, besides Open DNS, and maybe another similar one, which I found so far. It is supposed to be a fiter, but I cannot figure out how to install it. This is a link;

sourceforge.net/projects/dansguardian/files/

Does no one on this forumn know much about Linux? This is quite frustrating. There must be many people with a great deal of knowledge about computers and Linux here.

On the other hand, maybe there is an inherent problem with Linux filtering. Also, in order to install this and many other programs in Linux, you have to know how to do it. I have not read much about it, and am just trying to see if someone can give me a quick suggestion as to which filter and how to install it. An answer to this question would most likely have to come from someone who has technical knowledge of Linux Mint.

Re: Linux 25 Mar 2015 09:39 #251198

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Thanks. I just noticed the replies to my original question here.

Re: Linux 25 Mar 2015 10:35 #251201

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Thanks. This is what I am looking for; a reply from someone who has tech. knowledge of Linux and experience with this issue.
The thing is that I do not know how to install Squid or DG. I am just learning about Linux, but it's still better in many ways than the other. Can you point me to guidance on how to install these types of programs?
I didn't notice that you had replied until tonight, and really appreciate yours and the other replies.
I also appreciate the replies by people who meant to be helpful but did not really understand the issues.

Re: Linux 25 Mar 2015 10:37 #251202

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Amen.
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