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Re: Will i ever be totally free?? 12 Sep 2013 22:05 #219046

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You will be fine.
You will make yourself and your Boreh proud.
This year will be different.
You have a different approach.
You know you need to surrender your lust to Hashem.
You know you need to take it one day at a time.

That includes today.

Don't get too worked up about what's coming up.

Just do today.

Re: Will i ever be totally free?? 12 Sep 2013 22:37 #219066

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Dov wrote:

Being at home for bein hazmanim means a lot more than just 'having the troubling internet there'. To you it may really mean:
1- having your parents there,
2- being a child again instead of a man again,
3- being out of your particular s'vivah of kedusha and simcha,
4- focusing on beating your porn habit day and night again...
all may be huge obstacles for you to overcome. Why minimize it and pretend it is just 'my big yetzer hora' again. It's probably part of a pattern and a picture, since this has been a long struggle for you.

Facing those things (if they apply to you) and planning real strategies for how you will be"H:
1- keep your simcha,
2- stop focusing on your 'kedushas habris' (really just a nice way to say "your penis"),
3- remain a man and not revert to feeling like that same kid who grew up masturbating or sneaking games, porn, or whatever, while you were growing up in your parent's home -
is far more worthwhile than any visits to Meron, tvilos in any mikvah, and any klopping of al cheit, in my opinion. Especially if they were the old way you responded to difficulties in life and the availability of porn.

Omg did this ever get to "Dov Quotes"?
?דער באשעפער לאווט מיך אייביג. וויפיל לאוו איך עהם
My Creator loves me at all times. How great is my love for him?

Re: Will i ever be totally free?? 22 Sep 2013 05:33 #219584

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Realizing that porn and masturbation are a substitute for intimate relations with your Eshes Chayil strikes me as a very important step. Once you realize that "what happens in your bedroom stays in your bedroom", to paraphrase an advertisement about one of the Avis Avos HaTumah of this Malachus Shel Chesed, and you and your wife are totally open and supportive of each other, you have a built in support system and source of inspiration who will help you realize what is really important and the source of all emotional intimacy, and will be able to take a huge step at working on your addiction. The term Akeres HaBayis is an amazingly apt phrase for what a wife in a Torah observant family expects and deserves in setting a tone for Kedusha in family life.

Re: Will i ever be totally free?? 23 Sep 2013 13:59 #219667

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SIB101854 wrote:
Realizing that porn and masturbation are a substitute for intimate relations with your Eshes Chayil strikes me as a very important step. Once you realize that "what happens in your bedroom stays in your bedroom", to paraphrase an advertisement about one of the Avis Avos HaTumah of this Malachus Shel Chesed, and you and your wife are totally open and supportive of each other, you have a built in support system and source of inspiration who will help you realize what is really important and the source of all emotional intimacy, and will be able to take a huge step at working on your addiction. The term Akeres HaBayis is an amazingly apt phrase for what a wife in a Torah observant family expects and deserves in setting a tone for Kedusha in family life.


Thanks for your advice, Im not married yet, so maybe that's why it sounds goofy to me. But Ill make sure to re-read this when I married. Working on addiction with my wife? I hope it wont have to get to that... One day at a time

Re: Will i ever be totally free?? 10 Oct 2013 06:06 #220723

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Anybody know if this fellow is still around?
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."

Re: Will i ever be totally free?? 10 Oct 2013 11:49 #220740

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He is very much still around.

He has committed to stay off the internet (except for once a week, if needed)

He is still in touch with the OINK chevra back in the Holy Land.

I'll let him know you asked.
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Have a great day, unless, of course, you made other plans. ~ obbormottel
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Re: Will i ever be totally free?? 11 Oct 2013 13:01 #220896

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Dov wrote:
Anybody know if this fellow is still around?


I usually hide behind a * and 6...

Avrohom

Re: Will i ever be totally free?? 14 Oct 2013 05:20 #221056

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"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."

Re: Will i ever be totally free?? 01 Oct 2014 03:06 #240604

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Avrom wrote:
Thanks for bringing this back to life cordnoy. (Even after I started WW3 with you )

I'm still not married. In my low twenties.
What helped me so far, is talking to others, by cooking tcholent, but mainly by opening up to others by oink and chat. Since I started, I always fell after about a month.. (Now I'm holding at about 35)
I also to daven to hashem, when I feel lust. I know that I cannot control lust, even a little bit will kill me. And in emergency cases (that is if I already slipped) call a friend.

Just to put this in perspective, in the past I never:
-Made it to 40 days
-Never ever stayed clean on motzei yom kippur (night)
-never lasted thru a bein hazmanim

All this is coming at me in the next few days.

But this is the first yom kippur that I will not say "never again!" Is this tshuva? I'm not sure.. Will I feel reborn and fresh? Maybe not..
But I think hashem understands if, for now, I take it "One day at a time"


Avrom; let me bring this thread back again. It was last year this time when it was revived. How are you?
P.S. what was the World War about? I forget. [I have so many of 'em.]

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Re: Will i ever be totally free?? 01 Oct 2014 17:59 #240634

I think I will forget my "Never Again" and ask HKB"H to give me his brachah of "never again" one day at a time.

Re: Will i ever be totally free?? 26 Nov 2014 09:20 #244142

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These guys still, still here anybody?
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."

Re: Will i ever be totally free?? 02 Dec 2014 02:41 #244400

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cordnoy wrote:
Avrom wrote:
Thanks for bringing this back to life cordnoy. (Even after I started WW3 with you )

I'm still not married. In my low twenties.
What helped me so far, is talking to others, by cooking tcholent, but mainly by opening up to others by oink and chat. Since I started, I always fell after about a month.. (Now I'm holding at about 35)
I also to daven to hashem, when I feel lust. I know that I cannot control lust, even a little bit will kill me. And in emergency cases (that is if I already slipped) call a friend.

Just to put this in perspective, in the past I never:
-Made it to 40 days
-Never ever stayed clean on motzei yom kippur (night)
-never lasted thru a bein hazmanim

All this is coming at me in the next few days.

But this is the first yom kippur that I will not say "never again!" Is this tshuva? I'm not sure.. Will I feel reborn and fresh? Maybe not..
But I think hashem understands if, for now, I take it "One day at a time"


Avrom; let me bring this thread back again. It was last year this time when it was revived. How are you?
P.S. what was the World War about? I forget. [I have so many of 'em.]

b'hatzlachah



Hi!!



Feels good to back here, even though I feel a bit strange.. All these new features and modern design are not the GYE I grew up with.


Let me first answer your question: shortly after Yom Kippur I did fall. But looking back, it wasn't a fall at all. In fact it was the start of a new era. I will explain what changed in just a minute. Before I do that, I will share some good news I'm sober for 1 year!!!
It's very exiting. But I'll try to forget about it when I get to the next line



What changed with that fall after Yom Kippur ? It became ok. Yes, I accepted that if I just would continue acting out - it's ok - because that's who I am. And hey, I'm doing what I can to change - but until I'm actually successful in getting sober I don't have to beat myself up for every fall. That's how I've been for the past ten years - and just because I decided that it's enough, doesn't mean that I will stop right away. Change is a long process..
So I acted out a couple of more times. I felt terrible. BUT I didn't feel like a piece of crap anymore. And slowly bit surly my recovery began... (See other posts)




Having revived this post I want to share some insight to the original question I asked so long ago: Will I ever be totally free???
It still gives me the shivers.. I think the answer is: Who cares!!!
Truth is I am still haunted by fantasies and horrible thoughts. I am not free. I need to watch myself and use the tools and tactics for the way I'm now. Perhaps the day will come when I will be "totally free". But it makes no difference for now. Now I am not "totally free" and that's all that counts.



I won't be back for a while,
Until then I wish you all The best and lots of Hatzlacha,
Avrom
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