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Re: Gut GeZogt! 07 Apr 2014 11:58 #230023

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With such beautiful emuna, may I give you a brocho that you find your perfect zivug, at the perfect time, and may you both build a home which is founded on Emuna AND kedusha!

Re: Gut GeZogt! 07 Apr 2014 22:17 #230049

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Thanks
?דער באשעפער לאווט מיך אייביג. וויפיל לאוו איך עהם
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Re: Gut GeZogt! 29 Apr 2014 09:38 #230812

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NUUU TZ! WHERE ARE YOU???!!!

We haven't heard a "gut vort" from you in quite while!!!

Re: Gut GeZogt! 29 Apr 2014 16:04 #230834

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Thanks Shivisi. I'm about to start a new thread with a translation of the Derech Pikudecha's Hakdama- something that was always very inspiring to me. Take this for meanwhile.


SEFIRA!
WE'RE COUNTING!
WHAT ARE WE COUNTING?
THE MINUTES UNTIL MATTAN TORAH!
THE SECONDS UNTIL WE ARE ZOCHE TO ATAH HOREISA LADAAAAAAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SO WHY IS IT CALLED SEFIRAS HAOMER?!
SHOULDN'T IT BE CALLED SEFIRAS KABBALAS HATORAH?!
SEFIRAS SHIVA NEKIYIM? SOMETHING! WHAT OMER?!

ZOGT DER HEILIGER BNEI YISASCHAR. IN DER ZELBE ZACH ZUGT DER HEILIGE ARUCH HASHULCHAN:
THE KORBAN OMER IS "SEORIM"
BARLEY, LIKE IN CHOLENT.
LIKE THE "SEORIM" THAT THE GEMARA ALWAYS SAYS IS MAACHAL BEHEIMA.

ON SHAVUOS WE EAT CHEESE CAKE.
I MEAN
WE BRING SHTAY HALECHEM [THE CHEESE CAKE IS A ZECHER TO IT].
LECHEM IS A MAACHAL ADAM.

WITHOUT THE TORAH
WE EAT MAACHAL BEHEIMA
DOGFOOD!

ONLY WHEN WE ARE ZOCHE TO MATTAN TORAH
TO NAASE VENISHMA
TO ACCEPT HASHEM'S WILL
DO WE TRANSCEND OUR ANIMAL NATURE AND BECOME HUMAN

LET US ALL BE HUMAN TODAY.
?דער באשעפער לאווט מיך אייביג. וויפיל לאוו איך עהם
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Re: Gut GeZogt! 29 Apr 2014 18:25 #230852

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amen!

so perhaps it should be sefiras halechem?

why are we countin' all da dogfood days?

just askin'

nice vort though.
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Re: Gut GeZogt! 30 Apr 2014 01:38 #230891

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ONLY THRU THE DOGFOOD DAYS DO WE BECOME MENTSHEN
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Re: Gut GeZogt! 30 Apr 2014 01:54 #230896

I don't chapp. Cholent is dogfood?

Re: Gut GeZogt! 30 Apr 2014 07:52 #230924

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TehillimZugger wrote:
ONLY THRU THE DOGFOOD DAYS DO WE BECOME MENTSHEN


a GROISE YYSHEKOIACH! GEVALDIGE VORT!!
bUT I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW DOES IT ANSWER THE KASHA?
WHY DO WE COUNT THE DOG-FOOD DAYS AND NOT HOW MANY MORE DAYS UNTIL WE GET MENCH FOOD?

(oops! please forgive the caps, I didn't notice it was on until the end)
Last Edit: 30 Apr 2014 07:54 by shivisi.

Re: Gut GeZogt! 30 Apr 2014 07:56 #230925

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shivisi wrote:

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(oops! please forgive the caps, I didn't notice it was on until the end)

I'm afraid it's contagious
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"If it would be so easy there wouldn't be a GYE, but if it would be impossible there also wouldn't be a GYE."
"Sometimes a hard decision leads to an easier outcome."
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Re: Gut GeZogt! 30 Apr 2014 15:16 #230935

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shivisi wrote:
WHY DO WE COUNT THE DOG-FOOD DAYS AND NOT HOW MANY MORE DAYS UNTIL WE GET MENCH FOOD?

That's a separate kasha that everyone asks anyway, if it's a countdown, why don't we count the days remaining? Valid kasha.
The Chinuch says, we so look forward to being rid of the dogfood, we count the days we're rid of. We discard the days one by one. Instead of saying: OY VEY another 48 WHOLE DAYS UNTIL I BECOME A MENTSCH!
WE SAY ONE DAY GONE
TEN DAYS GONE
TODAY WE CAN SAY FIFTEEN DAYS GONE

UNTIL WE FINALLY ARRIVE AT OUR DESTINATION.
?דער באשעפער לאווט מיך אייביג. וויפיל לאוו איך עהם
My Creator loves me at all times. How great is my love for him?
Last Edit: 30 Apr 2014 16:10 by TehillimZugger.

Re: Gut GeZogt! 30 Apr 2014 18:10 #230944

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its not a separate kasha
its a kasha on the vort you said...not a pircha...a kasha

according to your vort, which I will repeat (don't need my haskamah) is a good one, the stress should not be the omer - the dog food (chullent), but the lechem (human consumption).

the way we count is the kasha of the chinuch
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Re: Gut GeZogt! 30 Apr 2014 18:42 #230954

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We are counting how far we've gotten away from the dogfood.
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"Sometimes a hard decision leads to an easier outcome."
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Re: Gut GeZogt! 01 May 2014 00:18 #230978

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cordnoy wrote:
its not a separate kasha
its a kasha on the vort you said...not a pircha...a kasha

according to your vort, which I will repeat (don't need my haskamah) is a good one, the stress should not be the omer - the dog food (chullent), but the lechem (human consumption).

the way we count is the kasha of the chinuch

I wrote it differently than the way it was written. Here are the originals:

ספר אגרא דפרקא, לחג השבועות:

על כן בפסח היה הקרבן מן השעורים מאכל בהמה כי עדיין לא קיבלו התורה רק שנצטוו באיזה מצוות מעשיות מה שאין כן בשבועות נשתלמו במתן תורה בכל השלימות על כן הקרבן מחטים מאכל אדם:

ספר ערוך השלחן, לאורח חיים, סי' תפ"ט ס"ג:

הקדוש ברוך הוא צוה להביא קרבנות בתחלת המניין מעומר שעורים ובסופו מחטים להורות דבלתי התורה אנחנו כבהמות נדמה שמאכלן שעורים כמו שאמרו בסוטה [ט"ו:] שקרבן סוטה הוא מן השעורים היא עשתה מעשי בהמה לפיכך קרבנה מאכל בהמה ע"ש וכשקבלו התורה הוי דמות אדם להנה ולכן קרבנם מן החטים מאכל אדם:
?דער באשעפער לאווט מיך אייביג. וויפיל לאוו איך עהם
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Re: Gut GeZogt! 01 May 2014 08:14 #230999

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cordnoy wrote:
according to your vort, the stress should not be the omer - the dog food (chullent), but the lechem (human consumption).


TehillimZugger wrote:
I wrote it differently than the way it was written. Here are the originals:

ספר אגרא דפרקא, לחג השבועות:

על כן בפסח היה הקרבן מן השעורים מאכל בהמה כי עדיין לא קיבלו התורה
ספר ערוך השלחן, לאורח חיים, סי' תפ"ט ס"ג:

הקדוש ברוך הוא צוה להביא קרבנות בתחלת המניין מעומר שעורים ובסופו מחטים להורות דבלתי התורה אנחנו כבהמות נדמה שמאכלן שעורים ...וכשקבלו התורה הוי דמות אדם להנה ולכן קרבנם מן החטים מאכל אדם:[/quote]



SHIVISI Responds:

Ok Thank you for the source quote.
now I was able to figure it out:
The original explanation was not said about SEFIRAS Haomer, but rather about KORBON haomer. To explain Why on Pesach the Korban Omer was from SEORIM and on Shvuos from Chittim.
The answer being that before Matan Torah we were like animals, so we bring a korban from "maachal Behaima".

With this we can ALSO explain why we count the past days, and not the upcoming days.
This is because this YESOD is a PREREQUISITE to Kabolas Hatorah !
We can only truly be Mekabel Torah if we build up the idea for 49 days, that without the Torah we are nothing more than ANIMALS!!
Gevaldig!!
Thank you TZ!!

PS How amazingly appropriate this vort is for a site where our mission is trying to free ourselves from our "animalistic" state of lust!
Last Edit: 01 May 2014 08:23 by shivisi.

Re: Gut GeZogt! 10 Aug 2014 13:17 #237078

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Talk to Hashem

A PERSON IS CALLED A MEDABBER
A SPEAKER

DON'TT PAARITS ALSO SPEAK?
SHOULDN'T A PEERSON BE CALLLED A MASKIL
A THINKER?!

THE GEMORRA TELLS THE STORY OF A GUY NAMED REB AMRAM
CHASSIDA
HE WAS KNOWSN AS A CHASSID
ONE WHO DOESN'T SIN

A BUNCH OF CAPTTIVE GIRLS WERE BROUGHT TO TOWN
SAFEST PLACE FOR THEM WAS REB AMRAM'S LOFT
THERE WAS A LADDER THAT REQUIRED TEN PEOPLE TO PUSH IT

THE YETZER HORA OVERPOWERED THIS BIG TZADDIK AND GAVE HIM STRENGTH TO PUSH THE LADDER OVER ALL BY HIMSELPH

TALK ABOUT POWELRESS. HE WAS TOTALLY IN SATAN'S GRIP.

WHAT DID HE DO?

HE YELLED! FIRE! FIRE! AT AMRAM'S PLACE.
PEOPLE CAME RUNNING AND HE WAS SAVED FROM THE YETZER;S FIRE.


SOMETIMES WE HAVE NO STRENGTH AT ALL.
WE CAN'T USE OUR BIG BRAINS.
WE CAN'T CONTROL OUR HANDS. [HECK! OUR HANDS ARE DOING THE WORK OF TEN PEOPLE]
WE HAVE ONE THING.

WE ARE MEDABBERS.
WE CAN SPEAK.


THE PASSUK TELLS US.
KEY KAROIV EILIECHA HADAVAR MEOD!
SERVICE OF HASHEM IS VERY CLOSE TO YOU.
OH YEAH? I'M pOWERLESS.
BEFICHA! UBILVAVCHA! LAASOSO!
IF YOU HAVE ZERO STRENGTH, TRY BEFICHA, TRY TALKING TO HASHEM!
THEN YOU WILL FIND, BILVAVCHA, YOUR HEART WILL BE INFLUENCED.
AND FINALLY LAASOSO, YOU'LL GAIN SOME CONTROL.
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My Creator loves me at all times. How great is my love for him?
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