omekhadavar wrote on 09 Feb 2022 18:44:

They sell android smartphones… they don’t service any phones

can someone in nauru lust (when there are hardly any people and certainly nobody with any sophistication)?

can a blind man lust?

What about the blind man? If men are so damnably stimulated by sight, then by definition a blind person could never commit this sin. Yet, instead of facing the truth that wrongful lust is a matter of the heart, we have gone to the drastic measure of making rules and restrictions of the strictest sort, thinking perhaps that forced blindness is the answer.

The truth is that a blind man can lust and covet wrongfully any of the things or persons that a sighted man or woman can. It is not the physical attributes that endanger us. It is the evil intentions of our hearts. Wrongful lust requires intent to possess.

Trouble wrote on 09 Feb 2022 22:26:

I don’t quite understand

joetyh wrote on 09 Feb 2022 22:33:

lo sassuru acharei levavchem vacharei eineichem - although rabbeinu yitzchaki quotes the sages that the former is idolatry and the latter is promiscuity, trouble thinks that the former may also refer to promiscuity, as the wrongful lust behind in the heart/mind, not in the eyes. and it probably says that someplace.

If your honest in the setup, you can use apple screen time but it does require a friend or adult to help you with that. I haven’t really read your previous posts so maybe this is why your not interested in it but it works pretty well and doesn’t have any loopholes as far as I know (I’ve had it for a while and I tried looking for some). It also has accountability features by default. I’m sure your already aware of it but look into I think it’ll help you and you can use it in conjunction with webchaver. If you were to use apple screen time by itself you would have to set a list of allowed websites because this is the best way to avoid falls (but you can choose what settings you want, like only to block p websites and other websites like maybe YouTube if you want to block them specially) but if you use webchaver in conjunction with it, then you don’t have to necessarily set your apple screen time filter to allowed websites only to be safe although this would be ideal (and this is the set up that I have on my phone). You would have to block specific sites like YouTube however and those filters will then apply to the covenant eyes browser and if you make that your only browser you would be safe enough.

Feel free to Pm for more info if you want and look in my signature of how to get webchaver for free. Even though it’s free it actually may hold you more accountable and you can chaverim on top of that. 

I messed up.
I messed up 
I freakin messed up after 23 days of clean 
and I lost money in the process 

God why? I blocked everything on my phone. I got rid of 2 phones I got rid of twitter, telegram, instagram and all I have is a couple of stupid basic websites and I still fall!!!! So what’s the point!!!!

joetyh wrote on 10 Feb 2022 01:28:

Your goal isn't to stop cold turkey, it's to rewire your brain. You're doing an amazing job! Don't underestimate how much those 23 days changed the neural pathways in your brain. Get up now and keep working on yourself! You can do this!

joetyh wrote on 10 Feb 2022 01:28:

Try having an accountability software, it works a lot better than a filter, if someone is struggling in this area he will keep on going around the filter.
I tried so many filters but kept on viewing shmutz despite the filter, the filter blocked porn, but I still was able to get around it, I now use webchaver and have more success with it.

i think omekhadavar said it well. without a doubt the 23 days you were clean have rewired how you cope with stress, emotional challenges, whatever your triggers might be. you just have to keep going through the process! it just takes time, you're doing amazing keep going

joetyh wrote on 10 Feb 2022 01:28:

Every ounce of effort you put in is saved forever! And not only that, this has helped you tremendously in your journey… think of it like a marathon - a guy needs to run 30 miles.. so if he just ran 10 he just prepared himself tremendously and did get quite far! We need to focus on the 23 days of success and that we can make it 2,300 days bezH! Keep it up! 

Just some points that might be worthwhile to think about for yourself.. It took me a long time to truly come to this realization.. 
1. make a system to keep your clarity going. The clearer we are why we don’t wanna view porn the easier it’ll be to stay back. After all the more we don’t like something the easier it is to not touch it. (perhaps writing down every reason why you wanna stop porn and triggering material? and reminding yourself it each day for 10 min?) it takes a lot of Internalizing why we wanna actually stop! So many people don’t know! They’re just expecting to hold out strong for the rest of they’re lives based on an uncomfortable feeling after falling! Well, that feeling doesn’t stay forever and in just a few days we’ll be back to the place of - that’s awesome stuff. We MUST reach a clarity that’s real and authentic that applies even on day 10,000 before moving forward and trying to break free and only soon failing and draining ourselves out in this lust battle..

2. making porn not an option in your brain! Therefore it won’t be filter based. It always makes the fight so much easier! How about making a vow you’ll rip up 20$ within 24 hrs of viewing porn? This is just one of many ideas of making it not an option.

Lost In Search wrote on 10 Feb 2022 04:09:

There is no accountability software for iOS that works on the whole iPhone it will only work in covenant eyes terrible browser 

joetyh wrote on 10 Feb 2022 10:59:

I am posting a link to the accountable2you website, it's good for ios software, their website says that they work in the safari and chrome browsers, so that should work for you. 
heres the link
Complete Accountability App for iPhone and iPad - Accountable2You

Lost In Search wrote on 10 Feb 2022 11:38:

I would want accountability on the whole phone not just the browser 

joetyh wrote on 10 Feb 2022 01:28:

Let me just mention a couple things.

1- Before we do anything can we just be with Joetyh and commiserate with him? Its gatta be really painful to be flying so high and then feel like crap all over again. 

2- @Joetyh do me a favor and buy yourself something special for the 23 awsome days you had. You really are amazing.

3- @Joetyh look how many people are following your journey! We all believe in you, and know this, you are doing great! Keep it up. We are all looking forward to you getting back up again and growing ever much more. Keep@it!!!!!!