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I want a girl so badly 01 Apr 2021 03:27 #366231

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Throughout my struggle with pornography, the root of the problem has been my desire for a girl. I'm 20 years old, still a couple of years away from dating, and my lust to have sex with a girl is through the roof. B"H, I have refrained from "hooking up" online, but it hasn't been for lack of lusting. I actually one time created an account under a spam email address on one of those sites, and messaged a woman who asked if I would want to meet. When I responded in the affirmative, she asked if before we did, I could send her a picture of myself. I actually considered it. Then I deleted the account, the email, turned the browser off, and broke down crying. I have not re-created an account since then, but the desire to is through the roof. The only reason I haven't is because I think of how it would destroy my future, but sometimes the thought process switches to how it COULD destroy my future, and the lust encourages me to take the chance.
I've written my story on here before (guardyoureyes.com/forum/1-Break-Free/362124-Falling-hard-nonstop), but now I feel like I've finally hit on the root of my struggle. I don't think (and neither does my therapist) that I am an addict, as the lust is not nonstop, and often, the lust is not for porn, (I have no trouble with masturbation whatsoever, thank God), but for actual sex with a girl;  the porn is manifested in that desire. I cannot filter more than what I already have, as the access to the porn is via my PARENT'S (when I'm home) unfiltered devices, which they don't know I have access to (hence they don't see even a remote need for a filter, as they have no clue of the problem; nobody does, save for my therapist-one would never guess looking at me that I struggle with this, I do well in Yeshiva B"H, have terrific parents, B"H).
In short, it's hard, the access to hook up is often right there under my nose, and any eitzos/advice for dealing with this horrid struggle would be greatly appreciated.
"It ain't about how hard you hit.
It's about how hard you can GET hit,
and keep moving forward,
how much you can TAKE,
and keep moving forward.
That's how winning is done!"



Re: I want a girl so badly 01 Apr 2021 13:25 #366244

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It's very important to always remember that you are not a bad person looking for bad things,  You are a great and amazing person! You just want to feel good, happy, fun, loved, and to love others. You want to feel the power inside you, which is natural, and searching for love and enjoyment is natural, normal, and healthy too.

The problem is that we are looking for these positive feelings in places that we can’t ever get them completely. That’s also why after we are promised lots of enjoyment and satisfaction, we are usually left afterwards with a greater hunger than before, and a feeling of frustration and disappointment.

Here is a great tip: Give yourself a pat on the back and a little treat every time you succeed. Allow yourself to celebrate each little success you have. You deserve it, because you’re doing something that very few people in today’s world today are able to do!
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Re: I want a girl so badly 01 Apr 2021 15:15 #366248

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Hi
I know how you feel.
I am only married a few years, I remember when I was single, I also had a huge desire, let's put it bluntly, to do sex with a certain girl I had a crush on. I never did BH! 
It's a normal desire, Hashem created it for good reasons for the right time.
But on a different note, the desire that you have, or at least I had, was a total 'fake' desire. I've watched porn too and that's where my desire came from. It's all empty. Totally nothing to do with real life and real love. Yes the actual act may feel enjoyable, but if it's coming from a lustful desire, it will never fill your needs. 
A number of years ago while I was learning in Israel, I found out about someone that was 'learning' there too, but got hooked up with a girl in America, and his desire took him so far that he FLEW to her apartment in America to do you know what and came back (without anyone knowing). Isn't that ridiculous!? How do you think he felt after he did it? Probably like garbage. Wasted a few thousand dollars! For what? For nothing.
I'm telling you it's really not worth it. You'll feel so empty after...
Iyh at the right time you'll get married and enjoy it in a healthy way, it will feel ten times more fulfilling. It doesn't come close to the feeling of masturbating (although you wrote you don't have trouble with that. Not sure how...but whatever lol) even after when it all dies down, you feel happy, you feel accomplished (if done right). You don't have that empty feeling that we all know of...


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Re: I want a girl so badly 01 Apr 2021 18:05 #366251

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Hey, fighter with fire!

listen to bud, I'm married a couple of years and I went through exactly what you're going through. a normal guy at a good yeshiva learning well, rabbeim loved me, I was a GOOD GUY. the difference between us though is that I recreated that account I went through and met up with someone. nothing intense happened bh. but, the problem became that I did that a couple of times. my biggest regret is that I didn't have the clarity or peace of mind to decide what exactly I want out of life.

You broke down crying after you created that account. I think we all know what we want out of life. You're a rockstar for fighting this war like you are. You're a real man and I have the utmost respect for you.

my wife is bh pregnant and I am now getting more clarity in my life. and I still struggle with this struggle. I just want to tell you that I know you want a girl so badly and you want to fulfill your desires. but there something much bigger at play and that's your life and I know it's hard to understand what that means because the lust for meeting someone just clouds your mind incredibly and it's almost impossible to make smart decisions in those moments. just hold on man, hold on. because when you finally do get married and you build a real relationship with someone and finally get the chance to be with them in an intimate way there is no bigger enjoyment in the world. and this a constructive way of fulfilling your taavos, as appose to porn or anything else which makes you feel terrible, it's very destructive.

I'm sorry if this whole thing is all over the place I just saw your post and had to tell you that everything your going through has an end and there is going to be a day when you say omg it was all worth it. hold on, buddy!

Re: I want a girl so badly 01 Apr 2021 23:33 #366262

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Re: I want a girl so badly 02 Apr 2021 02:58 #366271

eyes wrote on 01 Apr 2021 23:33:
Dear FWF and Joseph613,
yes this fight is a big one and i dont envy you. but i think both of you have a bit of a corrupt outlook on marriage. 
marriage is NOT going to help you with lusts. I am telling you that it won't. When you get married, you are getting married to the person, because you love her, care about her, share the same values ETC. Sex is part of the equation and NOT the be-all-end.

Getting married will not help your lust problems for the following reasons:
1. If your wife feels that she is being used for sex, she will shut down. (look into grant400's story)
2. Your wife will only be permitted to you 16-20 days max a month. If your wife is pregnant (bsha tova to joseph613) then you will have the full pregnancy. Then for 2 months she will bleed and heal after giving birth. Some women need more time.

Guys you are living in a fantasy to think that getting married is going to solve your problems. Just to paraphrase from Grant400's story, that when Moe realized his wife was not a porn star did he revert back to it. Thank G-D^ to the power of infinity (for those that know math) I have never watched porn. Your wife and most of the wives of husbands on this group, just graduated high school or seminary. They come in to marriage thinking how "kedusha" it is supposed to be. They learn how Kedusha sex is and they only the deeper stuff once they get into the act and maybe maybe they will want more and intense. They are true bnos Yisroel. They marry thinking it is so "kadosh.'' They have no idea that their husband has wanted sex for so long. They are not dolls or chics. 
FWF don't EVER THINK MARRIAGE IS GOING TO SOLVE YOUR ISSUE.  Joseph 613 is thank G-D married, and i sincerely hope he knows that he has 2 months of nothing G-D willing coming along after the baby is born in the right time.
FWF Thank G-D my wife had a baby recently and I am still waiting for her to immerse to be together again. Its tough, but we connect in other ways besides for sex. If I may suggest, that you should speak to your therapist and to work on undoing the sight of porn and to learn what a proper relationship mean. So that bezras Hashem when you do get married you will know how to do it right. 
I myself suffered from obsessing over sex and did certain things to objectify my wife. It was not fun. she shut down and it was very hard. Learn from my wrong doings and do it right.

NEVER FORGET MARRIAGE DOESN'T SOLVE LUST. IT DOESN'T, IT WILL ONLY MAKE IT WORSE. I spoke to Dov yesterday and he told me that for some people, getting married only makes it worse.
If you care look back and see how many men including myself had to wait longer for their wife to go to the mikva.

Woman sense if their husband is having sex for the right purpose which is to make her happy. If you are lusting to have sex and getting married for that reason, you should know that you are not only going to hurt yourself in the long run, but you are also hurting a young beautiful girls' life, by her thinking she is marrying a sweet boy and really underneath a lustful person.

Sorry for being so tough.

Dear FWF, joseph 613 and anyone else reading this whether you are married or not reconsider your lust. 
By the way I was also talking to myself the whole time. I am also having a hard time. I am not perfect, but i know the consequences of lust and being a sex animal in marriage. look in my other posts.

pesach sameach

EYES  

Never mentioned once in my posts that I think marriage is an automatic cure. Of course it's not. In fact, I don't even think Joseph613 was saying that (in fact, HE SPECIFICALLY mentions in his post that he's still struggling!); he was pointing out that he was still B"H able to GET married and reorganize his life despite his troubles. To be clear, I agree with almost everything you said , but not the part about marriage not helping at all; it helped for multiple people that I know of; even if it's not a cure-all, it often eases the struggle, although there are always exceptions if one's struggle is really bad and/or unhappy marriage Chas V'chalilah; regardless, saying "marriage only makes things worse" as a blanket statement is factually untrue. I just want to make clear that I had no illusions about the opposite (i.e., that marriage is a definite solution that always solves the problem, and therefore the struggle definitely won't continue past then) whatsoever.
"It ain't about how hard you hit.
It's about how hard you can GET hit,
and keep moving forward,
how much you can TAKE,
and keep moving forward.
That's how winning is done!"



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Re: I want a girl so badly 02 Apr 2021 04:32 #366275

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FighterWithFire wrote on 01 Apr 2021 03:27:
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Throughout my struggle with pornography, the root of the problem has been my desire for a girl. I'm 20 years old, still a couple of years away from dating, and my lust to have sex with a girl is through the roof. B"H, I have refrained from "hooking up" online, but it hasn't been for lack of lusting. I actually one time created an account under a spam email address on one of those sites, and messaged a woman who asked if I would want to meet. When I responded in the affirmative, she asked if before we did, I could send her a picture of myself. I actually considered it. Then I deleted the account, the email, turned the browser off, and broke down crying. I have not re-created an account since then, but the desire to is through the roof. The only reason I haven't is because I think of how it would destroy my future, but sometimes the thought process switches to how it COULD destroy my future, and the lust encourages me to take the chance.
I've written my story on here before (guardyoureyes.com/forum/1-Break-Free/362124-Falling-hard-nonstop), but now I feel like I've finally hit on the root of my struggle. I don't think (and neither does my therapist) that I am an addict, as the lust is not nonstop, and often, the lust is not for porn, (I have no trouble with masturbation whatsoever, thank God), but for actual sex with a girl;  the porn is manifested in that desire. I cannot filter more than what I already have, as the access to the porn is via my PARENT'S (when I'm home) unfiltered devices, which they don't know I have access to (hence they don't see even a remote need for a filter, as they have no clue of the problem; nobody does, save for my therapist-one would never guess looking at me that I struggle with this, I do well in Yeshiva B"H, have terrific parents, B"H).
In short, it's hard, the access to hook up is often right there under my nose, and any eitzos/advice for dealing with this horrid struggle would be greatly appreciated.

Wow man, you sound just like me.
You can check out my thread “Make It To Yeshiva” to see my similar struggles.

Feel free to send me a PM


Hatzlocha,

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Re: I want a girl so badly 02 Apr 2021 06:30 #366278

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FighterWithFire wrote on 02 Apr 2021 02:58:

eyes wrote on 01 Apr 2021 23:33:
Dear FWF and Joseph613,
yes this fight is a big one and i dont envy you. but i think both of you have a bit of a corrupt outlook on marriage. 
marriage is NOT going to help you with lusts. I am telling you that it won't. When you get married, you are getting married to the person, because you love her, care about her, share the same values ETC. Sex is part of the equation and NOT the be-all-end.

Getting married will not help your lust problems for the following reasons:
1. If your wife feels that she is being used for sex, she will shut down. (look into grant400's story)
2. Your wife will only be permitted to you 16-20 days max a month. If your wife is pregnant (bsha tova to joseph613) then you will have the full pregnancy. Then for 2 months she will bleed and heal after giving birth. Some women need more time.

Guys you are living in a fantasy to think that getting married is going to solve your problems. Just to paraphrase from Grant400's story, that when Moe realized his wife was not a porn star did he revert back to it. Thank G-D^ to the power of infinity (for those that know math) I have never watched porn. Your wife and most of the wives of husbands on this group, just graduated high school or seminary. They come in to marriage thinking how "kedusha" it is supposed to be. They learn how Kedusha sex is and they only the deeper stuff once they get into the act and maybe maybe they will want more and intense. They are true bnos Yisroel. They marry thinking it is so "kadosh.'' They have no idea that their husband has wanted sex for so long. They are not dolls or chics. 
FWF don't EVER THINK MARRIAGE IS GOING TO SOLVE YOUR ISSUE.  Joseph 613 is thank G-D married, and i sincerely hope he knows that he has 2 months of nothing G-D willing coming along after the baby is born in the right time.
FWF Thank G-D my wife had a baby recently and I am still waiting for her to immerse to be together again. Its tough, but we connect in other ways besides for sex. If I may suggest, that you should speak to your therapist and to work on undoing the sight of porn and to learn what a proper relationship mean. So that bezras Hashem when you do get married you will know how to do it right. 
I myself suffered from obsessing over sex and did certain things to objectify my wife. It was not fun. she shut down and it was very hard. Learn from my wrong doings and do it right.

NEVER FORGET MARRIAGE DOESN'T SOLVE LUST. IT DOESN'T, IT WILL ONLY MAKE IT WORSE. I spoke to Dov yesterday and he told me that for some people, getting married only makes it worse.
If you care look back and see how many men including myself had to wait longer for their wife to go to the mikva.

Woman sense if their husband is having sex for the right purpose which is to make her happy. If you are lusting to have sex and getting married for that reason, you should know that you are not only going to hurt yourself in the long run, but you are also hurting a young beautiful girls' life, by her thinking she is marrying a sweet boy and really underneath a lustful person.

Sorry for being so tough.

Dear FWF, joseph 613 and anyone else reading this whether you are married or not reconsider your lust. 
By the way I was also talking to myself the whole time. I am also having a hard time. I am not perfect, but i know the consequences of lust and being a sex animal in marriage. look in my other posts.

pesach sameach

EYES  

Never mentioned once in my posts that I think marriage is an automatic cure. Of course it's not. In fact, I don't even think Joseph613 was saying that (in fact, HE SPECIFICALLY mentions in his post that he's still struggling!); he was pointing out that he was still B"H able to GET married and reorganize his life despite his troubles. To be clear, I agree with almost everything you said , but not the part about marriage not helping at all; it helped for multiple people that I know of; even if it's not a cure-all, it often eases the struggle, although there are always exceptions if one's struggle is really bad and/or unhappy marriage Chas V'chalilah; regardless, saying "marriage only makes things worse" as a blanket statement is factually untrue. I just want to make clear that I had no illusions about the opposite (i.e., that marriage is a definite solution that always solves the problem, and therefore the struggle definitely won't continue past then) whatsoever.

The title and theme of your thread is about how badly you want to connect with a girl. I think many of us went through or are going through something similar. I for one, thought that getting married and "hooking up with a girl" were mostly the same. I wouldn't expect anyone who struggles with lust and or porn etc. to think otherwise. B"H, I had good Chassan Rebbeim and I have a good Rav, but it's still a process, one that may take some mistake as well, in order for us to learn from them.

I think @Eyes misunderstood you to mean that you wanted a girl in your life to be with forever in order to satisfy your lust. I understand you to mean that your struggle is with wanting a girl so badly. Am I understanding correctly? 
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Re: I want a girl so badly 02 Apr 2021 16:29 #366289

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ever mentioned once in my posts that I think marriage is an automatic cure. Of course it's not. In fact, I don't even think Joseph613 was saying that (in fact, HE SPECIFICALLY mentions in his post that he's still struggling!); he was pointing out that he was still B"H able to GET married and reorganize his life despite his troubles. To be clear, I agree with almost everything you said , but not the part about marriage not helping at all; it helped for multiple people that I know of; even if it's not a cure-all, it often eases the struggle, although there are always exceptions if one's struggle is really bad and/or unhappy marriage Chas V'chalilah; regardless, saying "marriage only makes things worse" as a blanket statement is factually untrue. I just want to make clear that I had no illusions about the opposite (i.e., that marriage is a definite solution that always solves the problem, and therefore the struggle definitely won't continue past then) whatsoever.

ok guys,
I got threat mail and death threats from my previous post. LOL. 

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Re: I want a girl so badly 02 Apr 2021 17:05 #366292

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I think FighterWithFire felt like he got  attacked for something he never said (which I agree...).
That's it. 
No need for anyone to get carried away.
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Just wanted to put it out there that I did not mean to say that marriage is the answer I apologize if that's how anyone took it. 

Re: I want a girl so badly 02 Apr 2021 17:17 #366294

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HappyYid wrote on 02 Apr 2021 17:05:
I think FighterWithFire felt like he got  attacked for something he never said (which I agree...).
That's it. 
No need for anyone to get carried away.

Sorry guys.

Re: I want a girl so badly 02 Apr 2021 17:51 #366296

wilnevergiveup wrote on 02 Apr 2021 06:30:

FighterWithFire wrote on 02 Apr 2021 02:58:

eyes wrote on 01 Apr 2021 23:33:
Dear FWF and Joseph613,
yes this fight is a big one and i dont envy you. but i think both of you have a bit of a corrupt outlook on marriage. 
marriage is NOT going to help you with lusts. I am telling you that it won't. When you get married, you are getting married to the person, because you love her, care about her, share the same values ETC. Sex is part of the equation and NOT the be-all-end.

Getting married will not help your lust problems for the following reasons:
1. If your wife feels that she is being used for sex, she will shut down. (look into grant400's story)
2. Your wife will only be permitted to you 16-20 days max a month. If your wife is pregnant (bsha tova to joseph613) then you will have the full pregnancy. Then for 2 months she will bleed and heal after giving birth. Some women need more time.

Guys you are living in a fantasy to think that getting married is going to solve your problems. Just to paraphrase from Grant400's story, that when Moe realized his wife was not a porn star did he revert back to it. Thank G-D^ to the power of infinity (for those that know math) I have never watched porn. Your wife and most of the wives of husbands on this group, just graduated high school or seminary. They come in to marriage thinking how "kedusha" it is supposed to be. They learn how Kedusha sex is and they only the deeper stuff once they get into the act and maybe maybe they will want more and intense. They are true bnos Yisroel. They marry thinking it is so "kadosh.'' They have no idea that their husband has wanted sex for so long. They are not dolls or chics. 
FWF don't EVER THINK MARRIAGE IS GOING TO SOLVE YOUR ISSUE.  Joseph 613 is thank G-D married, and i sincerely hope he knows that he has 2 months of nothing G-D willing coming along after the baby is born in the right time.
FWF Thank G-D my wife had a baby recently and I am still waiting for her to immerse to be together again. Its tough, but we connect in other ways besides for sex. If I may suggest, that you should speak to your therapist and to work on undoing the sight of porn and to learn what a proper relationship mean. So that bezras Hashem when you do get married you will know how to do it right. 
I myself suffered from obsessing over sex and did certain things to objectify my wife. It was not fun. she shut down and it was very hard. Learn from my wrong doings and do it right.

NEVER FORGET MARRIAGE DOESN'T SOLVE LUST. IT DOESN'T, IT WILL ONLY MAKE IT WORSE. I spoke to Dov yesterday and he told me that for some people, getting married only makes it worse.
If you care look back and see how many men including myself had to wait longer for their wife to go to the mikva.

Woman sense if their husband is having sex for the right purpose which is to make her happy. If you are lusting to have sex and getting married for that reason, you should know that you are not only going to hurt yourself in the long run, but you are also hurting a young beautiful girls' life, by her thinking she is marrying a sweet boy and really underneath a lustful person.

Sorry for being so tough.

Dear FWF, joseph 613 and anyone else reading this whether you are married or not reconsider your lust. 
By the way I was also talking to myself the whole time. I am also having a hard time. I am not perfect, but i know the consequences of lust and being a sex animal in marriage. look in my other posts.

pesach sameach

EYES  

Never mentioned once in my posts that I think marriage is an automatic cure. Of course it's not. In fact, I don't even think Joseph613 was saying that (in fact, HE SPECIFICALLY mentions in his post that he's still struggling!); he was pointing out that he was still B"H able to GET married and reorganize his life despite his troubles. To be clear, I agree with almost everything you said , but not the part about marriage not helping at all; it helped for multiple people that I know of; even if it's not a cure-all, it often eases the struggle, although there are always exceptions if one's struggle is really bad and/or unhappy marriage Chas V'chalilah; regardless, saying "marriage only makes things worse" as a blanket statement is factually untrue. I just want to make clear that I had no illusions about the opposite (i.e., that marriage is a definite solution that always solves the problem, and therefore the struggle definitely won't continue past then) whatsoever.

The title and theme of your thread is about how badly you want to connect with a girl. I think many of us went through or are going through something similar. I for one, thought that getting married and "hooking up with a girl" were mostly the same. I wouldn't expect anyone who struggles with lust and or porn etc. to think otherwise. B"H, I had good Chassan Rebbeim and I have a good Rav, but it's still a process, one that may take some mistake as well, in order for us to learn from them.

I think @Eyes misunderstood you to mean that you wanted a girl in your life to be with forever in order to satisfy your lust. I understand you to mean that your struggle is with wanting a girl so badly. Am I understanding correctly? 

Precisely. Thanks. 
"It ain't about how hard you hit.
It's about how hard you can GET hit,
and keep moving forward,
how much you can TAKE,
and keep moving forward.
That's how winning is done!"



Re: I want a girl so badly 06 Apr 2021 00:38 #366387

I really empathize with your situation. When I was single I used to do similar things, I would download various chat apps whether video or texting and connect with random girls. The pursuit was relentless. I am baruch hashem married now and it is going great bh. I still struggle with shmiras einayim but I am doing way better than I ever did, I can honestly say that I fight every day. 
You want advice? My suggestion may be uncomfortable but I feel necessary. The goal is to avoid being in scenarios that you are likely to succumb to your desires and habits. Ask your parents to put a passcode on their devices. It may be awkward at first, but any parent would be glad to have their child make a request of them for the purpose of spiritual growth. I did this with my wife. I had access to her lap top and would watch things nobody should so I asked her to put a passcode on it. I explained to her why I asked her to do this and she was extremely supportive. I expect your parents will be too. 
Its always important to find motivation to fight this battle, but practical techniques are needed as well, this should help. 
Mainly though...Daven. Daven and never stop. 

Re: I want a girl so badly 06 Apr 2021 18:24 #366425

Aaron613 wrote on 06 Apr 2021 00:38:
I really empathize with your situation. When I was single I used to do similar things, I would download various chat apps whether video or texting and connect with random girls. The pursuit was relentless. I am baruch hashem married now and it is going great bh. I still struggle with shmiras einayim but I am doing way better than I ever did, I can honestly say that I fight every day. 
You want advice? My suggestion may be uncomfortable but I feel necessary. The goal is to avoid being in scenarios that you are likely to succumb to your desires and habits. Ask your parents to put a passcode on their devices. It may be awkward at first, but any parent would be glad to have their child make a request of them for the purpose of spiritual growth. I did this with my wife. I had access to her lap top and would watch things nobody should so I asked her to put a passcode on it. I explained to her why I asked her to do this and she was extremely supportive. I expect your parents will be too. 
Its always important to find motivation to fight this battle, but practical techniques are needed as well, this should help. 
Mainly though...Daven. Daven and never stop. 

Thanks so much for the suggestion. Unfortunately, while they would be more than happy to put a passcode on the devices, they’re 1) not aware of the problem, and as such, would ask why I want the code, and, more importantly 2) I’ve tried making up excuses, and it’s worked (I.e.,
they’ve put a code), but I FIGURED OUT ACCESS anyways. There’s no way to get them to change the code without revealing that I have access (which I’m not supposed to have), or without revealing the problem.
But I will definitely keep davening; nonstop and forever.
"It ain't about how hard you hit.
It's about how hard you can GET hit,
and keep moving forward,
how much you can TAKE,
and keep moving forward.
That's how winning is done!"



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