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what is considered staying clean? 28 Jul 2015 15:34 #260437

if you dont go searching for inappropriate things but rather you see a non-jew not dressed properly for a second is that considered breaking your clean streak?

Re: what is considered staying clean? 28 Jul 2015 15:46 #260438

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What constitutes a "Fall" to require restarting the count?
There are "slips" and there are "falls". "Slips" do not require restarting the count. "Falls" do require restarting.
A "Fall" is one of the following things:
Intentional masturbation (with finish)
Intentionally viewing improper sites
Intentionally calling inappropriate telephone numbers
Intentionally seeking out and reading erotica
Worse things, which we need not mention
In regard to number 2 (and 4), if someone saw something by mistake and then got a little bit carried away and kept looking at it, or even if someone saw a link and couldn't resist clicking on it but then catches themselves within a few seconds, that would only be considered a "slip", not a "fall". However, if someone decides to actively pursue viewing bad sites, that would be considered a fall.
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Re: what is considered staying clean? 28 Jul 2015 18:21 #260457

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rollerblade wheels wrote:
if you dont go searching for inappropriate things but rather you see a non-jew not dressed properly for a second is that considered breaking your clean streak?
If it is, then none of us (or at least very few of us) are clean. Go easy on yourself. Having VERY strict rules about "breaking a clean streak" can be counterproductive. I'm not saying that you should allow yourself to indulge a little. I'm just saying not to call it a "fall".

Re: what is considered staying clean? 28 Jul 2015 18:56 #260462

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rollerblade wheels wrote:
if you dont go searching for inappropriate things but rather you see a non-jew not dressed properly for a second is that considered breaking your clean streak?

All the Jews you see are always dressed properly?
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Re: what is considered staying clean? 28 Jul 2015 19:32 #260464

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Bigmoish wrote:
rollerblade wheels wrote:
if you dont go searching for inappropriate things but rather you see a non-jew not dressed properly for a second is that considered breaking your clean streak?

All the Jews you see are always dressed properly?


Perhaps he was thinkin' that if you should c"v see a Jew dressed immodestly, it is most coytainly regarded as a fall!
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Re: what is considered staying clean? 29 Jul 2015 01:55 #260479

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